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Jersey Devil

(9,875 posts)
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 09:12 PM Mar 2019

IMO, it is extremely unlikely that the DC judge will hand down a consecutive sentence

Consecutive sentences are usually reserved for violent career criminals who need to be locked up to protect society. In over 30 years of handling criminal cases on the state (NJ) level I never had a defendant sentenced to consecutive sentences.

The DC judge will hand down whatever sentence she deems appropriate, but a consecutive sentence would, imo, appear to be an attempt on her behalf to remedy today's inadequate sentencing by another federal judge and I cannot in any circumstance believe that a federal judge would comment or attempt to manipulate the sentence of another federal judge. It just is not done.

Much more likely is that she renders a sentence that is close to the guidelines for the case and makes it concurrent to the 47 months he got today. So if she does that and sentences Manafort to, say, 5-6 years, then that is what he will serve in total.

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IMO, it is extremely unlikely that the DC judge will hand down a consecutive sentence (Original Post) Jersey Devil Mar 2019 OP
If she keeps to the standard sentencing range, wouldn't that be ten years? pnwmom Mar 2019 #1
Yes, and there is also the factor that Manafort will not be a first offender for the DC sentence Jersey Devil Mar 2019 #11
Subverting the electoral process is as violent as any revolution, moreso when done for greed as now. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #2
+1 Chin music Mar 2019 #4
Maybe my reference to violence was a bad analogy Jersey Devil Mar 2019 #6
No, it was a GOOD analogy. Manafort deserves a consecutive sentence. Unlikely to get one. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #10
I agree, but that is not what Manafort was convicted of here. Tax and bank fraud is what they got Hoyt Mar 2019 #12
Right tax and bank fraud. I found if very odd that his lawyers came out and did the no collusion UniteFightBack Mar 2019 #13
The no collusion spiel was done for the audience in the White House... magicarpet Mar 2019 #17
So far. Though I think one of upcoming sentencing charges is for Conspiracy Against USA. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #14
Exactly. It's next case that is important to making Manafort pay for crimes related to trump. Hoyt Mar 2019 #15
But that is not what he was convicted for. GulfCoast66 Mar 2019 #16
Are there terms for early release from the Federal system? PJMcK Mar 2019 #3
There is no parole for federal crimes but they can get time off for exemplary behavior - The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #5
plus ten percent of the remainder of that sentence up to 180 days gopiscrap Mar 2019 #9
No, early parole is not done in Fed system wishstar Mar 2019 #7
Thx for this, what are the guidelines for the DC convictions? Thx in advance uponit7771 Mar 2019 #8

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
1. If she keeps to the standard sentencing range, wouldn't that be ten years?
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 09:14 PM
Mar 2019

And since he lied to them instead of cooperating, and engaged in witness tampering, I don't know why she'd go below the standard.

Jersey Devil

(9,875 posts)
11. Yes, and there is also the factor that Manafort will not be a first offender for the DC sentence
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 09:23 PM
Mar 2019

The judge could not possibly grant leniency because Manafort has, as the judge said today, otherwise led an exemplary life, since he will stand before the DC court as a convicted and sentenced felon.

Jersey Devil

(9,875 posts)
6. Maybe my reference to violence was a bad analogy
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 09:19 PM
Mar 2019

Consecutive sentences are usually reserved for career criminals in order to protect the public from the likelihood that there will be additional victims if the defendant is not locked away for a long time, whether the crimes are violent or not.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
12. I agree, but that is not what Manafort was convicted of here. Tax and bank fraud is what they got
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 09:24 PM
Mar 2019

him on. Right or wrong, tax sentences are usually that long.

Truthfully, I'd let all the Manaforts and Cohens go with big financial penalties and restitution (part of Manafort's sentence was $24.8 Million in restitution), to get trump and his kids.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
13. Right tax and bank fraud. I found if very odd that his lawyers came out and did the no collusion
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 09:27 PM
Mar 2019

spiel.

magicarpet

(14,175 posts)
17. The no collusion spiel was done for the audience in the White House...
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 11:42 PM
Mar 2019

No Collusion,..

Because they could not find collusion they are digging up BullShit charges. It is all a witch hunt because they hate trDump.

Vote trDump for his second term and teach these socialists a lesson.

This will be the drum beat after every Team trDump buddy prosecution and a heavy heavy dose of the same to get trDump his second term in the Oval Office.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,045 posts)
14. So far. Though I think one of upcoming sentencing charges is for Conspiracy Against USA.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 09:27 PM
Mar 2019

And the Foreign Agents violations are more than financial. Maybe in today's sentence? Or are they coming up? Manafort repeatedly gamed the Act by registering after the fact and so forth. He even advised others to do the same.

PJMcK

(22,050 posts)
3. Are there terms for early release from the Federal system?
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 09:15 PM
Mar 2019

Do inmates get credit for good behavior, etc.? Or is that only credited in state penitentiaries?

Thanks, in advance.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
5. There is no parole for federal crimes but they can get time off for exemplary behavior -
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 09:18 PM
Mar 2019

up to 54 days per year of their sentence. 18 U.S.C. § 3624(b).

gopiscrap

(23,765 posts)
9. plus ten percent of the remainder of that sentence up to 180 days
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 09:20 PM
Mar 2019

in a half way house in addition to 2-5 years probabtion

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