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Eugene

(61,964 posts)
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 11:39 AM Mar 2019

'She Had a Poor Choice of Words': Ilhan Omar's Constituents Grapple with Her Remarks

Source: New York Times

‘She Had a Poor Choice of Words’: Ilhan Omar’s Constituents Grapple with Her Remarks

By Mitch Smith and Matt Furber
March 8, 2019

MINNEAPOLIS — When Mohamed Ahmed’s third-grade daughter was assigned a school report about an African-American she admired, she chose to study her newly elected congresswoman, Ilhan Omar.

“She’s a hero to my daughters,” said Mr. Ahmed, who like the congresswoman is Somali-American. “She’s an idol. They look up to her. They aspire to be her.”

But as Ms. Omar’s comments about American Jews and Israel drew bipartisan rebukes in recent weeks, culminating Thursday with a House vote condemning anti-Semitism and other forms of hate, Mr. Ahmed had a conversation with his 8-year-old daughter about Ms. Omar.

“I told her she had a poor choice of words, which hurt people,” said Mr. Ahmed, who voted for Ms. Omar but was unsure whether he would do so again. “And words matter if you’re a leader.”

Across Minnesota’s snow-covered Fifth Congressional District — a bright-blue bastion of independent coffee shops, Somali malls and proudly progressive politics — the voters who overwhelmingly elected Ms. Omar in November were conflicted about her recent remarks, sometimes along surprising lines. Ms. Omar’s comments, and the weeks of backlash, raised questions about tolerance and free speech in a place that consistently elects a diverse slate of politicians, as well as concerns about the future of a carefully crafted rapport between leaders of the area’s sizable Jewish and Muslim communities.

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beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
2. young ones like AOC and Omar just don't get it at times. Words will be pounced on, do NOT give
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 11:54 AM
Mar 2019

the opposition any more reason than necessary. You don't always have to talk. Her political career may be over

 

theboss

(10,491 posts)
7. She's going to be a Congressperson for as long as she wants
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 12:53 PM
Mar 2019

That's the scary part of this. There will be no consequences for these statements.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
8. Do you think she is actually Antisemitic?
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 12:57 PM
Mar 2019

Or just a bit naive?

I actually don't disagree with her on the substance of what she is saying, but I think one needs to be aware of the history of Antisemitism and what those means. I think she's mainly guilty of being oblivious to that.

That's a correctable problem. If she IS Antisemitic, though (which I have not seen evidence of), then that's a fundamental problem.

 

theboss

(10,491 posts)
9. She's been making these kinds of statements for as long as she's been in the public eye
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 01:04 PM
Mar 2019

I actually find it more racist/bigoted to keep dismissing this as "inexperience" or naivete. We wouldn't make those excuses for any other 40 year old with nearly a decades worth of political experience.

But we're treating her like a child because, I think, she's a Somali female.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
13. Hmmmm....
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 01:35 PM
Mar 2019

This is a tricky area, IMO. It's difficult to criticize a lobbying organization without criticizing financial influence in our political system. Of course, that stomps right into age-old Antisemitic tropes.

But it's also true that the pro-Israel lobby exerts a lot of influence in the USA. And I do think the USA has not always acted in our own interests for the sake of Israel. And Israel IS a foreign state. Those things all collide together. But there has to a be a place where the state of Israel, and the pro-Israel lobby can be criticized without invoking Antisemitism.

And yeah, I do think the depth of cultural Antisemitism in west might be lost on a first generation Somali immigrant

 

theboss

(10,491 posts)
10. We need to deal with the fact that members of our coalition are going to have deep cultural conflict
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 01:10 PM
Mar 2019

Black Americans are the most deeply religious people in America. This generation of activist Millenials are the least religious people in America. Immigrants and black Americans and Hispanics already here are going to be in competition for the same jobs. Muslims are going to be increasingly important. Aligning their policy wants with those of gays, women, and Jews is going to be really interesting.

I do think Democrats have the potential in the next two decades to become as dominant as they were post FDR.

But that dominance was built on the back of uniting essentially two parties with disparate ideas into one - Southern Dems and Northern Dems.

You can talk about diversity being our strength all you want until people start questioning your true loyalties.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. I raised my eyebrows at the comment that the "deeply liberal"
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 12:12 PM
Mar 2019

makeup of her district might shield her a bit from consequences of this kind of behavior. But then I realized I'm deeply liberal, with a liberal's realistic acceptance of a whole range of imperfections, including mild bigotry, as normal to human beings -- and also a liberal's acceptance that we all have a right to exist anyway and a moral duty to make it work. Including especially to control those among us who would attack and genuinely hurt others if allowed.

So, I like what I like about Omar and dislike what I don't, spoke out against that, and hope that she chooses in future to hide her problem with groups she doesn't like. Right now her Muslim identity is giving her a shield of another sort, as if antisemitism from a Muslim (surely more of a victim than Jews these days?? ), is somehow defensible. But she'll lose that cover very quickly if she uses "a poor choice of words" about some other group.

In any case, in 2020 Omar's new constituents will decide if she will continue representing them. And as a "deeply liberal" deeply committed to democracy, I respectfully leave that choice to them and her future mostly in her own hands.

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