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This is disgusting on so many levels....
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Shortly before 11 a.m., the AP reported that Boehner had urged Republicans to oppose the stimulus. Obama press secretary Robert Gibbs handed Obama a copy of the story in the Oval Office, just before he left for the Hill to make his case for the stimulus, an unprecedented visit to the opposition after just a week in office. You know, we still thought this was on the level, Gibbs says. Obama political aide David Axelrod says that after the president left, White House aides were buzzing about the insult. And they didnt even know that Cantor had vowed to whip a unanimous votewhich, ultimately, he did.
It was stunning that wed set this up and before hearing from the President, theyd say they were going to oppose this, Axelrod says. Our feeling was, we were dealing with a potential disaster of epic proportions that demanded cooperation. If anything was a signal of what the next two years would be like, it was that.
But that wasnt the only signal. A few other examples:
*Vice President Biden told me that during the transition, he was warned not to expect any bipartisan cooperation on major votes. I spoke to seven different Republican senators who said: Joe, Im not going to be able to help you on anything, he recalled. His informants said McConnell had demanded unified resistance. The way it was characterized to me was: For the next two years, we cant let you succeed in anything. Thats our ticket to coming back, Biden said. The vice president said he hasnt even told Obama who his sources were, but Bob Bennett of Utah and Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania both confirmed they had conversations with Biden along those lines.
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Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012/08/23/the-party-of-no-new-details-on-the-gop-plot-to-obstruct-obama/#ixzz24R8XIAET
spanone
(135,870 posts)robinlynne
(15,481 posts)right? Had Obama, right then, made a step to the left, to real reform, the people had his back. This country was ripe and ready for real change. for Elizabeth Warren and Al Gore and Howard Dean and Wesley Clark and Van Jones to be in his government... Bobby Kennedy Junior maybe.
Robert Reich.
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)He only had a filibuster proof Senate for a total of about 60 days.
He made campaign promises to try to change the tone in Washington. He attempted to reach out to them just as he had promised. It failed because they had already decided to never cooperate in any way whatsoever.
wryter2000
(46,081 posts)Two of the 60 were independents, and one of them was Joe Lieberman, who was going to do whatever he could to get revengs for the fact that his friend, John McCain, had lost.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)immediately, and the Party should,have supported the Democratic candidate with every single muscle in the general election.
wryter2000
(46,081 posts)Let's hope the Mr. NiceGuy thing is over.
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)though he was allowed to keep his chairmanship on the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.
To bad the dems didnt have 2 more senate seats because if they had they could have afforded kicking him off that to like he deserved for his turning traitor.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)oldsarge54
(582 posts)I believe the most disillusioned person in the United States is probably the President. I believed he arrived in Washington with an economy in free fall and a belief that people from both parties would work together for the good of the country. Obama's main problem with his last budget proposal was that it was filled with compromises, as was most legislation he sent on to Congress to consider. This left the Republicans hungry, they wanted more, and disappointed his own supporters. ACA is a good example. The Repubs love to cite that 57% of the nation disapproved of the ACA. Right they were. Fail to mention that 15% of that figure disapproved because it didn't go far enough left.
pnwmom
(108,991 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)reflection
(6,286 posts)They align against him to make him fail at the expense of the country and then have the audacity to:
1) blame him for failing
2) bemoan the fact that the country is hurting.
Sociopaths.
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)They could care less how this might be hurting the country.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)just sayin'
Chemisse
(30,817 posts)They are selling out their country for their own petty purposes.
It is a very sad chapter in our democracy.
When party supersedes your oath of office, that should be considered treason.
It's different to disagree on principal, but if it's just to tow the party line, then you have crossed into doing harm to the country.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)rtracey
(2,062 posts)How do we fix something like this, we vote the Republicans out of office, we regain the house, and we filibuster proof the senate. Even if the worst should happen and Rmoney steals the election, he will need to deal with a Democratic controlled Congress. I actually think the congressional elections are more important then the presidential election. I will never vote against my party, but right now, congress is controlling everything....Harry Reid must reinstate the filibuster rule. He must not let the right wingers off easy by saying you don't have the 60 votes, so we win the filibuster....bullshit you guys need to stand and read the phone book, dictionary anything to kill the time until the filibuster fails or is conceded.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)I don't sympathize with President Obama. It's him and his advisors who acted like they were asleep, pretended to be naive, and they found themselves apparently surprised by the RepubliKKKan Jihad.
That's not particularly intelligent.
denvine
(802 posts)He really thought he could work with the scum, but they showed their gutter politics quickly. He learned quickly that he was dealing with people who would sacrifice the country just to get in power. How I despise them for their treacherous ways. I still admire him for trying.
TardisBlue
(56 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)...keep reaching out and extending "the hand"? Why didn't he and his advisors develop a way to deal with the reality they apparently knew about? Only now are they starting to behave as they should have 4 years---4 years!---ago.
Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)It could be that up until that point, they believed it was possible that some Republicans had enough sanity to actually put the country ahead of their right wing agenda. I have no problem with that because I also hoped that compromise was still seen as the correct way to govern.
Once the House shifted power, there was no hope.
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Anyone else with almost any other job would be fired for gross incompetence.
tridim
(45,358 posts)Botany
(70,577 posts)They caused the problems.
They refused to help in anyway to correct the problems.
They then blamed Obama for those very same problems.
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These are not republicans of Ike or Nixon or their sainted Ron Reagan
but anti American power hungry pigs.
malaise
(269,157 posts)where they plotted to sabotage the President. Paul Ryan was one of the plotters.
Google Draper, inauguration night and UK Guardian.
The word is treason.