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Tennessee Gal

(6,160 posts)
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 01:00 AM Aug 2012

The Party of No: New Details on the GOP Plot to Obstruct Obama

This is disgusting on so many levels....

~snip~

Shortly before 11 a.m., the AP reported that Boehner had urged Republicans to oppose the stimulus. Obama press secretary Robert Gibbs handed Obama a copy of the story in the Oval Office, just before he left for the Hill to make his case for the stimulus, an unprecedented visit to the opposition after just a week in office. “You know, we still thought this was on the level,” Gibbs says. Obama political aide David Axelrod says that after the president left, White House aides were buzzing about the insult. And they didn’t even know that Cantor had vowed to whip a unanimous vote—which, ultimately, he did.

“It was stunning that we’d set this up and before hearing from the President, they’d say they were going to oppose this,” Axelrod says. “Our feeling was, we were dealing with a potential disaster of epic proportions that demanded cooperation. If anything was a signal of what the next two years would be like, it was that.”

But that wasn’t the only signal. A few other examples:

*Vice President Biden told me that during the transition, he was warned not to expect any bipartisan cooperation on major votes. “I spoke to seven different Republican senators who said: ‘Joe, I’m not going to be able to help you on anything,’” he recalled. His informants said McConnell had demanded unified resistance. “The way it was characterized to me was: ‘For the next two years, we can’t let you succeed in anything. That’s our ticket to coming back,’” Biden said. The vice president said he hasn’t even told Obama who his sources were, but Bob Bennett of Utah and Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania both confirmed they had conversations with Biden along those lines.

~snip~

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012/08/23/the-party-of-no-new-details-on-the-gop-plot-to-obstruct-obama/#ixzz24R8XIAET

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The Party of No: New Details on the GOP Plot to Obstruct Obama (Original Post) Tennessee Gal Aug 2012 OP
k&r... spanone Aug 2012 #1
and that is when we had a majority in the house and senate. So why did he keep on playing to the rig robinlynne Aug 2012 #2
Two reasons. Tennessee Gal Aug 2012 #3
He never really had 60 votes wryter2000 Aug 2012 #9
and the Dem Party let Joe Lieberman keep his seats!!!! he should have been stripped of his power robinlynne Aug 2012 #17
You're so right wryter2000 Aug 2012 #18
No, actually he lost the Environment and Public Works Committee cstanleytech Aug 2012 #20
had the party storngly supported the Dem candidate, there would be no lieberman in the senate. at al robinlynne Aug 2012 #23
I Believe oldsarge54 Aug 2012 #16
Thanks! nt pnwmom Aug 2012 #4
And these people rely on Think Tanks? nt. polly7 Aug 2012 #5
This is borderline treasonous. reflection Aug 2012 #6
Yes, they are sociopaths. Tennessee Gal Aug 2012 #8
"borderline"??? Plucketeer Aug 2012 #11
I really believe this is treason. Chemisse Aug 2012 #15
Agreed Flatpicker Aug 2012 #25
K&R this needs to be seen berni_mccoy Aug 2012 #7
then lets fix it rtracey Aug 2012 #10
... CobaltBlue Aug 2012 #12
He was still idealistic! denvine Aug 2012 #13
K & R TardisBlue Aug 2012 #14
Then why did Obama... zentrum Aug 2012 #19
Perhaps the 2010 election had a bit to do with that. Tennessee Gal Aug 2012 #22
k and r nt. Stuart G Aug 2012 #21
...and these asscarrots get paid for that? WTF! Job failure. L0oniX Aug 2012 #24
Anxiously awaiting the in-depth MSM reporting on this major story. tridim Aug 2012 #26
The republican plan summed up Botany Aug 2012 #27
The first one started on inauguration night malaise Aug 2012 #28

robinlynne

(15,481 posts)
2. and that is when we had a majority in the house and senate. So why did he keep on playing to the rig
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 01:17 AM
Aug 2012

right? Had Obama, right then, made a step to the left, to real reform, the people had his back. This country was ripe and ready for real change. for Elizabeth Warren and Al Gore and Howard Dean and Wesley Clark and Van Jones to be in his government... Bobby Kennedy Junior maybe.
Robert Reich.

Tennessee Gal

(6,160 posts)
3. Two reasons.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 01:28 AM
Aug 2012

He only had a filibuster proof Senate for a total of about 60 days.

He made campaign promises to try to change the tone in Washington. He attempted to reach out to them just as he had promised. It failed because they had already decided to never cooperate in any way whatsoever.

wryter2000

(46,081 posts)
9. He never really had 60 votes
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 02:05 PM
Aug 2012

Two of the 60 were independents, and one of them was Joe Lieberman, who was going to do whatever he could to get revengs for the fact that his friend, John McCain, had lost.

robinlynne

(15,481 posts)
17. and the Dem Party let Joe Lieberman keep his seats!!!! he should have been stripped of his power
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 11:58 AM
Aug 2012

immediately, and the Party should,have supported the Democratic candidate with every single muscle in the general election.

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
20. No, actually he lost the Environment and Public Works Committee
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 04:13 AM
Aug 2012

though he was allowed to keep his chairmanship on the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.
To bad the dems didnt have 2 more senate seats because if they had they could have afforded kicking him off that to like he deserved for his turning traitor.

oldsarge54

(582 posts)
16. I Believe
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 06:47 AM
Aug 2012

I believe the most disillusioned person in the United States is probably the President. I believed he arrived in Washington with an economy in free fall and a belief that people from both parties would work together for the good of the country. Obama's main problem with his last budget proposal was that it was filled with compromises, as was most legislation he sent on to Congress to consider. This left the Republicans hungry, they wanted more, and disappointed his own supporters. ACA is a good example. The Repubs love to cite that 57% of the nation disapproved of the ACA. Right they were. Fail to mention that 15% of that figure disapproved because it didn't go far enough left.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
6. This is borderline treasonous.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 11:25 AM
Aug 2012

They align against him to make him fail at the expense of the country and then have the audacity to:

1) blame him for failing

2) bemoan the fact that the country is hurting.

Sociopaths.

Chemisse

(30,817 posts)
15. I really believe this is treason.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:51 PM
Aug 2012

They are selling out their country for their own petty purposes.

It is a very sad chapter in our democracy.

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
25. Agreed
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 06:16 PM
Aug 2012

When party supersedes your oath of office, that should be considered treason.

It's different to disagree on principal, but if it's just to tow the party line, then you have crossed into doing harm to the country.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
10. then lets fix it
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 03:02 PM
Aug 2012

How do we fix something like this, we vote the Republicans out of office, we regain the house, and we filibuster proof the senate. Even if the worst should happen and Rmoney steals the election, he will need to deal with a Democratic controlled Congress. I actually think the congressional elections are more important then the presidential election. I will never vote against my party, but right now, congress is controlling everything....Harry Reid must reinstate the filibuster rule. He must not let the right wingers off easy by saying you don't have the 60 votes, so we win the filibuster....bullshit you guys need to stand and read the phone book, dictionary anything to kill the time until the filibuster fails or is conceded.

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
12. ...
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 05:57 PM
Aug 2012

I don't sympathize with President Obama. It's him and his advisors who acted like they were asleep, pretended to be naive, and they found themselves apparently surprised by the RepubliKKKan Jihad.

That's not particularly intelligent.

denvine

(802 posts)
13. He was still idealistic!
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 09:51 PM
Aug 2012

He really thought he could work with the scum, but they showed their gutter politics quickly. He learned quickly that he was dealing with people who would sacrifice the country just to get in power. How I despise them for their treacherous ways. I still admire him for trying.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
19. Then why did Obama...
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 12:09 AM
Aug 2012

...keep reaching out and extending "the hand"? Why didn't he and his advisors develop a way to deal with the reality they apparently knew about? Only now are they starting to behave as they should have 4 years---4 years!---ago.

Tennessee Gal

(6,160 posts)
22. Perhaps the 2010 election had a bit to do with that.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 07:49 AM
Aug 2012

It could be that up until that point, they believed it was possible that some Republicans had enough sanity to actually put the country ahead of their right wing agenda. I have no problem with that because I also hoped that compromise was still seen as the correct way to govern.

Once the House shifted power, there was no hope.

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
24. ...and these asscarrots get paid for that? WTF! Job failure.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 01:17 PM
Aug 2012

Anyone else with almost any other job would be fired for gross incompetence.

Botany

(70,577 posts)
27. The republican plan summed up
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 05:55 AM
Aug 2012

They caused the problems.

They refused to help in anyway to correct the problems.

They then blamed Obama for those very same problems.

*******************

These are not republicans of Ike or Nixon or their sainted Ron Reagan
but anti American power hungry pigs.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
28. The first one started on inauguration night
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 06:55 AM
Aug 2012

where they plotted to sabotage the President. Paul Ryan was one of the plotters.

Google Draper, inauguration night and UK Guardian.

The word is treason.

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