a fistful of twenties for all off.

the other half is filler.

something based only on the sex of the buyer?

and if for only somethings where should the line be drawn??

What next?

Someone sues because under 6 years old are still people and I as an adult should get half off.

Let the sue craziness stop in this country.

Slippery slope is all I'm saying..

Especially if those patrons are from an under-represented demographic??

Derrick Hunter is either:

1. Butthurt
2. A cheapskate
3. Intimidated because the only reason he goes to the gun range is to get AWAY from the 'estrogen crowd'

He needs to man the fuck up and/or find another place to plink...Please tell me that next he's going to all the bars and clubs and demand they charge all women full cover...Please tell me he's going to every restaurant and demand they do away with kid/senior discounts...Please tell me he'll come down to Norfolk and demand everyone eliminate military family discounts...And for the love of god, PLEASE tell me he's going to a baseball stadium or amusement park and demand they eliminate all their "XX get in for half price" nights...

If he doesn't plan on suing all of them, then I suggest he FOAD...Especially since I'm pretty sure he's taken advantage of unique discounts at some time in his life...

"Men: there might be cute single girls here!"

Some of those "rape is like the weather" jokes conservative men are fond of won't go over so well with the Janey's got a gun set.

Isn't all sexism, um, sexism?

but I just copied and pasted the video description...

"reverse sexism" should mean being particularly UN-sexist. Acting as if "reverse sexism" is misandry suggests that by default, "sexism" means can only mean misogyny and that women are not capable of being sexist toward men. It's just as stupid as "reverse racism".

The term "reverse sexism" is laughable.
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Reverse_sexism

And I hope one of these anti-ladies-night lawsuits eventually wins and the practice stops. It will be hilarious to see the results.

Would he deny Senior Citizens their discounts claiming it's ageism? Or "kids eat free" discounts?

He's an idiot.

More and more women are owning guns these days. Guns are no longer a white conservative male thing.

Classes such as this are becoming more and more common. IIRC the NRA offers a special introductory gun safety course especially for women. It creates a more comfortable learning environment since you dont have the risk of having some macho jackass in your class who is trying to impress women.

In a world where the GOP is fine with women being raped its nice to see gun owners and instructors reaching out to women, providing them with the skills that could someday save them from harm.

Ladies discounts are mainly a way to get women interested in something they might not be otherwise. Whether its owning/carrying a gun, going to a strip club, or whatever else you can think of. NOTHING wrong with such discounts IMO.

That should even things up.

they had a ladies night and some guy got pissed and sued.

it was settled out of court and the bar still had ladies night.

Oh wait, that never happens.

Let me rephrase.

What's to stop a business from saying "We need more white people, whites pay less"?

that it would be aok

Not for bars etc - that would make no sense. The point is to attract more men by bringing in more women. The (fairly well established) assumption being that men will go to bars anyway, but prefer to go to ones with more women. But there are businesses that could indeed benefit from bringing in more traditionally majority/powerful demographics.

Why shouldn't/don't manicure places for example advertise specials for men? Not to bring in women chasing them - but to get the male custom that now is a tiny part of their customer base?

There's no call for men to show up at dance classes, or for attracting men to manicure / day spa / etc. places. In fact, it's the opposite - we have women's-only places such as gyms, because men are evil. Or just plain undesirable. Their mere presence is creepy.

Yes, there are the men's-only country clubs, but how many working class men ever get in there? The discrimination against men happens primarily in working class establishments: men pay full price at the bars, men get excluded from some gyms, etc., while the reverse never happens.

Thus, two truths prevail, which are convenient for the "exclude males" crowd:

1) Places where women primarily hang out, men don't want to go; or
2) Women don't want guys there.

Which is why you never see a "men's night, men pay less" in a working-class establishment. There is simply no demand for men.

...for that analogy to work.

Assuming black people were more likely to shop at a place where there were were white customers.

This could justify them saying "whites pay less". I'm surprised someone hasn't tried that and used the "children, seniors and women pay less" examples as a defense.

What is the logical difference between price discrimination on the basis of gender versus age, race or religion?

But to get MORE of their business.

They're giving women a discount to attract more male customers.

If a place has a "white guy discount" it wouldn't be to attract more black and Hispanic customers. That is a pretty big difference.

Theaters, for example, aren't "discriminating" against adults because they charge less for kids to get in.

"Because the clear reason for this isn't to descriminate against men."

Huh?

Ah, I see, it's because they're engaging in price discrimination, but it's "for the benefit of the men".

First of all, can we at least be intellectually honest and admit that giving one group a lower price than the other is price discrimination?

simply put if you had a promotion that benefited men or whites it would be protested in to oblivion even though it might technically be legal.

This is a double standard that benefits women and it won't go away any time soon.

And it is pretty low on my list of priorities.

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I know my barber chargers more for longer mens hair... he doesn't do women's hair...

I read that the dry cleaning is because the unisex machines while being cheaper run about 20% as fast as the ones that handle larger mens clothing so they are less common... as they do not have machines in house for doing women's clothing they mostly do it by hand... mens shirts hand pressed cost the same as women's for the most part...

I think there have been one of these cases before involving a ladies night at a bar. If I remember right, it was tossed out. I may be wrong. It was a long time ago.

And I really do wish they'd just do away with it.

It would be amusing to me to see whether nightclubs simply collapse. An entire subculture could practically disappear.

They give discounts to women, to lure women in... so the women can lure more men in.

Just like in some bars and clubs.

It's a manipulative circle and I don't like it.

I wouldn't want to go to a place that had a ladies day/night discount. It would make me feel like I was offering myself up as bait.

Eeeeeeeeew.

I am not fucking bait to grease the wheels of your profit machine.

Jackasses.

demographic they haven't had a lot of success with.

Gun ranges aren't really the best places to hit on people (unlike say a bar). It's not expected and you really can't hear anyone (ear protection plus many people firing in close quarters) and they have rules about where you can stand (usually in individual firing ranges with dividers).

found gender based discrimination in this manner is acceptable C) he's probably just looking for a payout.

The legality of "ladies nights" does vary by area...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladies'_night

http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/is-ladies-night-legal.aspx

The guy is an asshole looking for a payout, but.... he is suing a gun range....something I'm not opposed to.

Maybe he could try to challenge the owner to a duel.

******* PLEASE READ THE LAW *********** Pepping v. Woodside delicatessen, 506 A.2d 263 (MD App.1986) a Maryland Court of Special Appeals found the business promotion of "skirt and gown night" violated a local ordinance and "was a discriminatory practice because the business promotion operated to make a distinction in rates and prices on the basis of sex". This is the law period!! even if males or females don't like it, it is the law and discrimination. **** THE LAW IS MEANT TO BE FOLLOWED REGARDLESS IF YOU LIKE IT OR NOT *****

seems like if this was law that would have to be the case