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*****BREAKING***** Manafort indicted by Manhattan Grand jury (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 OP
Which means a pardon can't even save him. bearsfootball516 Mar 2019 #1
Yup! MarcoZandrini Mar 2019 #18
I am not a fan of this abbreviation, but seriously LOL. JDC Mar 2019 #21
... brandnewday2009 Mar 2019 #26
Damn, I thought you were talking about Manny Goldstein, for those that remember him still_one Mar 2019 #2
Lol. MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #11
lol ! stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #30
Wow- msnbc showing people shouting down spooky3 Mar 2019 #3
What WAS that in the purple fuzzy hat? nolabear Mar 2019 #6
I missed it. Nt spooky3 Mar 2019 #10
Pure theater. nolabear Mar 2019 #12
Shazam !! C_U_L8R Mar 2019 #4
Great news, thank you. shockey80 Mar 2019 #5
Gee Manafort is having a very shitty day...good! titaniumsalute Mar 2019 #7
Can the Trumps and the Trump Organization be far behind? kennetha Mar 2019 #8
Not too far...Trump Organization indictments will take a while..(at least in my opinion) Stuart G Mar 2019 #17
Great news dalton99a Mar 2019 #9
Has made my day. BritVic Mar 2019 #13
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! CatWoman Mar 2019 #14
Guess Manhattan wasn't satisfied that he got long enough sentences to ooky Mar 2019 #15
Says, he's facing another 25 years if convicted. sunonmars Mar 2019 #16
Dun Dun Dun!!! PubliusEnigma Mar 2019 #19
Nothing burger angrychair Mar 2019 #20
Tell that to Bernie Madoff (n/t) leftynyc Mar 2019 #22
Tell that to the CEOs and corporations angrychair Mar 2019 #23
I wonder what was different leftynyc Mar 2019 #24
That is easy actually angrychair Mar 2019 #25
Madoff also didn't have a president leftynyc Mar 2019 #33
At the end of the day angrychair Mar 2019 #34
Unless he makes a deal leftynyc Mar 2019 #35
Parole doesn't apply to federal sentencing, so more like 6.5 years, just for the fed charges. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #28
Since the federal system is too corrupt, time for states to step up. liberal N proud Mar 2019 #27
NBC: Paul Manafort indicted on fraud charges by Manhattan prosecutors emulatorloo Mar 2019 #29
lock him up ! stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #31
Expert on Ari just said conviction is a "slam dunk." Works for me! lindysalsagal Mar 2019 #32

spooky3

(34,484 posts)
3. Wow- msnbc showing people shouting down
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 12:46 PM
Mar 2019

Manafort lawyer sayin LIAR! LIAR! As he claimed that 2 judges declared no collusion.

Stuart G

(38,449 posts)
17. Not too far...Trump Organization indictments will take a while..(at least in my opinion)
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 12:59 PM
Mar 2019

Who knows? I sure hope that they appear soon. I hope also that a couple of Trump's sons are indicted. That will definitely add to the show...

....more

ooky

(8,930 posts)
15. Guess Manhattan wasn't satisfied that he got long enough sentences to
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 12:53 PM
Mar 2019

satisfy them for their laws he broke. If he's got any money left they may want that too.

angrychair

(8,736 posts)
20. Nothing burger
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 03:21 PM
Mar 2019

Least we forget he is rich and white. He'll get a couple more months? Still out in a couple years and still a millionaire.

angrychair

(8,736 posts)
25. That is easy actually
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 05:55 PM
Mar 2019

Madoff: One person. The crime straightforward and unambiguous.

2007 financial collapse: lots of people and corporations. Lots of politics. Lot more money involved than even Bernie Madoff could ever dream of.
Way more complicated to explain to the normal person.

That said, it should not have precluded the need to get justice for crashing the economy and the ppl that lost their life savings.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
33. Madoff also didn't have a president
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 08:05 PM
Mar 2019

Saying what a raw deal he was getting and what a great guy he was. Or a federal judge claiming, incredulously, that he led a blameless life.

angrychair

(8,736 posts)
34. At the end of the day
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 08:21 PM
Mar 2019

Manafort has got off with as about as light a sentence as anybody could have imagined, so far below the federal sentencing guidelines as to be insulting to our intelligence.
It remains to be seen if they can make any of these charges stick given double jeopardy laws and such.

Trump was as flagrant and overt a criminal as one could possibly be before he became president: from his tax evasion and insurance fraud to his "university" and "foundation" (just to name about 5% of his crimes) and no one gave a rat's ass until after he won. I just doubt anything will come of all this and if we wait until 2020 and he loses than that will be it. Over. Everyone will go back to not caring again. Trump wins. He gets to retire on the govt dime and spend his freetime between golf and harassing the new Democratic president like he did Obama.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
35. Unless he makes a deal
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 05:08 AM
Mar 2019

like resigning in exchange for no charges against him and his spawn, he will face charges in NY. We will punish him for inflicting himself on the rest of the country. Our AG won largely because she promised to investigate the crap out of him and will dog him until there are no more questions.

emulatorloo

(44,192 posts)
29. NBC: Paul Manafort indicted on fraud charges by Manhattan prosecutors
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 06:27 PM
Mar 2019
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/paul-manafort-indicted-manhattan-district-attorney-n982826

Paul Manafort indicted on fraud charges by Manhattan prosecutors
Manafort was indicted on 16 counts tied to residential mortgage fraud and conspiracy, the indictment says.

March 13, 2019, 11:47 AM CDT / Updated March 13, 2019, 2:27 PM CDT

By Tom Winter and Rich Schapiro
Paul Manafort has been indicted by a Manhattan grand jury in connection with a multimillion-dollar mortgage fraud scheme, according to court documents obtained by NBC News.

Manafort, President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman, was indicted on 16 counts tied to residential mortgage fraud and conspiracy, according to the indictment unsealed Wednesday.

The 69-year-old longtime GOP operative is accused of falsifying business records to illegally obtain millions of dollars as part of the yearlong mortgage fraud scam. If convicted on the top count, Manafort faces a prison sentence of 8 to 25 years, a senior law enforcement official told NBC News.

“No one is beyond the law in New York,” Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. said in a statement.

<snip>

Trump has the power to pardon Manafort on federal charges, but the president would have no authority to intervene in the event of a conviction on state charges.


lindysalsagal

(20,741 posts)
32. Expert on Ari just said conviction is a "slam dunk." Works for me!
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 06:51 PM
Mar 2019

No wonder the yellow asshat was screaming about NY yesterday.....They're always told ahead of time....

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