They are not going to clean up their state's corrupt politics until they get rid of these Republicans.

Between voter amnesia and election rigging, Ohio keeps doing this to itself. There needs to be a 12-step program or something.

There are traditional urban Democratic strongholds in Cleveland and Columbus. Unfortunately, Cincinnati, which ought to be an urban Democratic stronghold, got lost in 1950s Kentucky. The northeast was a traditional labor stronghold - I hope that is still true in 2012. The Republicans are doing everything they can to destroy the unions and with it a very strong Democratic voting bloc.

There are rural counties that are still in the middle ages - literally, in the case of some of the counties in the east-central portion of the state that have large Amish communities.

So in Ohio, voter turnout is KEY. That's why voter suppression is so important to the Republicans. That's why they put criminally corrupt secretaries of state in power - to make sure that the Democratic precincts can't vote, and that the vote is maximized in Republican precincts.

I watched this guy on TV and he was turning red in the face because he knew he was standing there with his pants down.

It really erks me that this goes to court and the judge supports the election stealing!

Who do we go to to get some justice around here?

This has to be stopped before the elections.

It still won't help them this election and it might turn Republicans against one another when it's all over.

Still, state's rights are paramount. If the people of Ohio don't change this themselves, then so be it. At least, I think that's the way the DOJ might view it.

Florida in 2000, and Ohio in 2004, for instance. In close elections, margins can make all the difference.

He had the district in Fla. that was most effected by the ballot problems.

He lists all the screw-ups that occurred and how the election was lost - a PRESIDENTIAL election!

These people are going for the win at any cost!

I certainly don't agree with - Oh well, it's states rights and we can't do anything about it.
(from the previous post) It's illegal!

The system needs to be fixed! There is too much corruption!

It looks likely that Obama will win AND have a majority in the senate. We may see some much needed changes then.

Not this time. I'm not some wild-eyed optimist. The demographics have shifted to our favor. We have a charismatic President against a Republican candidate disliked by his own party.

I don't see how this election comes anywhere close to what happened in 2000.

A few of the many factors:

[1] Due to the absence of physical ballots, hand-marked by the voter, it is no longer possible to perform a valid recount. Whatever is in the black-box devices (rigged or not) is what you get, and one cannot audit it effectively.

[2] Polling stations have been closed and/or consolidated, which suppresses likely dem participation.

[3] Media has become more partisan, and the bulk of media bias is now further to the Right.

[4] Opacity has replaced transparency in many governmental agencies, especially in Ohio.

[5] The mechanics of elections have been increasingly outsourced to private industry: and the overwhelming number of vendors are owned by Republicans.

I agree with you about the candidates and their respective chances: but we must remember that elections are not decided by virtues or qualities. They are decided by math. And that math is both easy to fudge, and very difficult to audit these days.

"Who votes, decides nothing. Who counts the votes decides everything" (Jos. Stalin)

I get these YouGov polls on line and they ask a guestion
about whether we think we're going in the right direction.

I always answer - no - wrong direction
and the pundits say that this is a mark against the Pres.

I say we're going in the wrong direction because Congress is a bunch of dim-bolts
and rhe Repukes are blocking everything they can.

I believe the Pres is doing the best he can, under the circumstances, and I blame
Congress for the plight we're in. I hope this gives us an edge and that Obama
wins by a landslide and we get a Dem majority.

My cousin said - but he didn't do anything for the two years he had a majority.
I answer - Thet's because he wasted time trying to reach across the aisle!
Hopefully, he'll regain the majority and F##K their eyeballs out!

I want to vote NOW!!!!!