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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:51 AM Mar 2019

Trumps life long sickness, obsession of gaming the system will bring him down.

My home state of New York will indict Trump, his kids, and the Trump organization. They have multiple investigations looking into everything Trump and his organization has done.

It has become clear to me Trump has approached every business deal, loan application, insurance claim, with this in mind. How can I get over? How can I make more? Even when Trump made a good deal, made a good profit, it was never good enough. At times, Trump broke the law when he did not have too. He could not control his sickness.

Trump surrounded himself with lawyers and he learned how to push the boundaries of the law without breaking the law. The problem is he lost control of his sickness, obsession and he crossed the boundaries of the law.

Cohen opened the door to Trumps world, his obsession, and New York law makers are now looking at everything. They will tear the Trump organization to pieces. If New York indicts Trumps kids, the Trump organization, Trump cannot pardon them.

I am proud to be a New Yorker at this historic moment. I hope other states will follow New York and investigate Trump and his organization. Trump has made deals, brought property, filed insurance claims in many states. I have no doubt he committed crimes in those states.

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Trumps life long sickness, obsession of gaming the system will bring him down. (Original Post) shockey80 Mar 2019 OP
and we haven't even gotten to vlyons Mar 2019 #1
He paid Pam Bondi and deSantis is his guy. lark Mar 2019 #2
So let them stay at Mar a Lago all year. greymattermom Mar 2019 #3
Wonder if drumpf gave them free memberships to garner influence or lark Mar 2019 #4
Thanks for posting. I like your 4th paragraph..It is a classic: Stuart G Mar 2019 #5
You can bet DownriverDem Mar 2019 #6
how how how did they get away with this for decades without being investigated ProfessorPlum Mar 2019 #7
All of the Watchdogs Were Put to Sleep Years Ago dlk Mar 2019 #14
It's like any mob or currupt cop movie johnnyfins Mar 2019 #19
you got that right ProfessorPlum Mar 2019 #23
K&R smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #8
He learned it from his father radical noodle Mar 2019 #9
I've asked this question knowing Doturd for 30 years... AZ8theist Mar 2019 #10
Unfortunately there is a plethora of stupid people who are willing to accept his schemes. gordianot Mar 2019 #12
Because one of his other sicknesses is even deeper... JHB Mar 2019 #26
Thank you New York! kairos12 Mar 2019 #11
Absolutely, but. . . matt819 Mar 2019 #13
Do you think that The Donald was referring to himself and his family Stonepounder Mar 2019 #15
From your mouth to God's ears. maxsolomon Mar 2019 #16
The cynical side of me agrees, but johnnyfins Mar 2019 #20
so far it looks like they need dentures to bite his ass. maxsolomon Mar 2019 #21
If Trump we're truly successful lunatica Mar 2019 #22
Nixon's obsession (besides the presidency) was to go down in history... maddiemom Mar 2019 #24
It isn't just Trump. zentrum Mar 2019 #17
Yeah right. We're almost at 2020, and nothing has happened. C Moon Mar 2019 #18
Yep. I appreciate shockey's positivity, but he or she makes this prediction on here almost every day bearsfootball516 Mar 2019 #27
And the mob boss noneof_theabove Mar 2019 #25

lark

(23,105 posts)
2. He paid Pam Bondi and deSantis is his guy.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:57 AM
Mar 2019

FL is safe for him because Rick Scott stole it for the repugs with using the reprehensible Cross Check to remove legal voters and signature matching to throw out votes that are also legal.

lark

(23,105 posts)
4. Wonder if drumpf gave them free memberships to garner influence or
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:04 AM
Mar 2019

if they paid for memberships to garner favor with the theif of the highest office?

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
5. Thanks for posting. I like your 4th paragraph..It is a classic:
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:17 AM
Mar 2019

"Cohen opened the door to Trumps world, his obsession, and New York law makers are now looking at everything. They will tear the Trump organization to pieces. If New York indicts Trumps kids, the Trump organization, Trump cannot pardon them. "

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
6. You can bet
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:28 AM
Mar 2019

that trump is very sorry he won the presidency. Either that or he's blind to what is going on.

ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
7. how how how did they get away with this for decades without being investigated
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:29 AM
Mar 2019

until now?

How many dozens of other crime families are doing exactly the same (or much worse, since presumably they are smarter than El Orange-o and his brood) and nothing is done.

Is money laundering a crime, or is it not? Do we prosecute it in this country? WTF

dlk

(11,569 posts)
14. All of the Watchdogs Were Put to Sleep Years Ago
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:07 PM
Mar 2019

While everyone was focused on putting poor people and people of color behind bars for every little thing, white collar crime and corruption flourished, unprosecuted. This is why private prisons have been a growth industry for so many years. The US incarcerates more of it’s people than any other country in the world. Make no mistake though, they are not rich and white.

johnnyfins

(823 posts)
19. It's like any mob or currupt cop movie
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:44 PM
Mar 2019

Everyone gets a piece. Ask Frank Serpico what happens when you tell the truth.

ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
23. you got that right
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:44 PM
Mar 2019

it's hard to believe, with the corruption going as high up as it must for this to happen, that Rump will face any real consequences.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
9. He learned it from his father
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:31 AM
Mar 2019

Fred Trump looked for every possible loophole to exploit. There seems to be little to point to him going over the line to break the law, but he certainly broke every ethical rule in the book. Donald took it farther and thought he could get away with going to the other side as long as he made everything so confusing that no one could follow the trail... that it would be too daunting. He didn't expect that running for president would make him the focus of so many investigations that are thrilled to follow his maze-like money trail.

AZ8theist

(5,470 posts)
10. I've asked this question knowing Doturd for 30 years...
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:37 AM
Mar 2019

Why, oh WHY would you put your criminal syndicate in this position?? FOR WHAT??

To say "nyah, nyah!!" to the black President who made fun of you at the Correspondents Dinner? SERIOUSLY?????

Who could be THAT. FUCKING. STUPID?

Yup, Dotard.

You could have lived your pathetic, stupid, imbecilic, con-job life with no problem whatsoever.......
Yet you chose (due to your stupidity) to commit TREASON for personal financial gain and now will be the first *resident to DIE IN FUCKING PRISON.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
12. Unfortunately there is a plethora of stupid people who are willing to accept his schemes.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:49 AM
Mar 2019

Trump is an icon for such he has been at the top of his game and appears to have gathered more enemies than supporters. Waiting for his final crash is exasperating.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
26. Because one of his other sicknesses is even deeper...
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 08:01 AM
Mar 2019

Never forgetting any perceived slight, and never passing up an opportunity to stab at them. Nothing is brushed off or considered beneath his notice.

A guy his warped perception told him was lesser, and who had been embraced by the very people who had snubbed him (rich "in crowd" Manhattanites), had openly mocked him out in public and on television.

For that, he would be THAT. FUCKING. STUPID.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
13. Absolutely, but. . .
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:55 AM
Mar 2019

NYS/NYC are taking their damned time. Mueller, too. Hard to stay optimistic.

I know, I know. Lots of indictments, convictions, jail time. Great. But too many are walking free. Flynn's sentencing keeps getting delayed because he's still cooperating. Great. But too many are still walking free. Cohen has testified multiple times to Congress and has provided documentation. Great. A few leaks have been tantalizing, but Jared, Ivanka, Jr., Eric, and the mob boss are still walking free.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
15. Do you think that The Donald was referring to himself and his family
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:11 PM
Mar 2019

when he said that 'people are fleeing NY in record numbers'?

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
16. From your mouth to God's ears.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:24 PM
Mar 2019

It sure as fuck hasn't happened yet, and if it's going to happen, it's taking it's sweet time about it.

I'm sticking with my prediction that, even if he's defeated in 2020, Trump will never pay a penalty for his lifetime of sociopathy and narcissism, and will die tweeting slander on a golden toilet. That's how America works.

Nixon was a fluke.

johnnyfins

(823 posts)
20. The cynical side of me agrees, but
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:48 PM
Mar 2019

I think he has pissed too many people off. Especially the MSM. His demonization of the media has bit him in the ass. They are on him 24/7/365. I really can't blame them, either.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
21. so far it looks like they need dentures to bite his ass.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:56 PM
Mar 2019

the WH press corp couldn't coordinate their way out of a paper bag.

if 2 reporters in a row would follow up on the same question as the 1st one (i.e. Jim Acosta recently), he'd blow a gasket and reveal a truth about Rusher. instead, some chump from fox will change topics and give him an out.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
24. Nixon's obsession (besides the presidency) was to go down in history...
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:37 PM
Mar 2019

as a "Revered Statesman." He was willing to do almost anything to reach that goal, including criminal behavior behind the scenes. His objectives were on a very different plane. I despised Nixon at the time, but I could never have imagined Trump, who wants only money and power above all else. Nixon wanted to be perceived as a "Great Man;" Trump wants to be the "Godfather. The Mafioso types like to think they have a certain code of honor (or DID), A code of honor is a sign of "a loser" to Trump.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
17. It isn't just Trump.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:28 PM
Mar 2019

He's the most visible florid example--but most of real estate in NYC and big pharma is built on this attitude. "How can I make more more more? What can I exploit?" There is never a real consequence for any of them except for the few caught "bad apples."

Bush Sr.'s father did business with Hitler for God Sake's. The financial crisis of 2008 was created by such creatures as Trump and yet they mostly all walked away.... and with millions. And are now back.

We live in a very corrupt, under-regulated military-industrial-financial complex that controls media, health, environment--and which has corroded Democracy.

It ain't just Trump. But he is embarrassing all of them and exposing them to scrutiny. If the Kochs or those types tell the Repugs to get rid of him--then and only then will they. Because the system itself is Trumpian.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
18. Yeah right. We're almost at 2020, and nothing has happened.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:29 PM
Mar 2019

Even Mueller's hard work is being watered down by judges.
It looks to me like the only way to get him out is in the next election.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
27. Yep. I appreciate shockey's positivity, but he or she makes this prediction on here almost every day
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 08:28 AM
Mar 2019

And hasn't been right yet.

noneof_theabove

(410 posts)
25. And the mob boss
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 07:44 AM
Mar 2019

eventually pays for it.

BREAKING NEWS 14 Mar 2019
Reputed Gambino crime boss Francesco 'Frank' Cali shot to death outside his home

From the first early morning reports, suspect #1 is someone just released from jail.
Looking for a pickup that ran into is vehicle parked in the driveway, to get him outside.
Looks like a "well planned mob hit"

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