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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHappy Leprechaun Day! What's the future of holidays?
Now that we are so diverse and happy to value it, our holidays are becoming contentless. St. Patrick's Day is now Leprechaun Day, according to my grandsons. We all know Christmas ceased to be a religious holiday a long time ago. Halloween, which long ago lost its connection with All Saint's Day is becoming a really big deal. But there's nothing to celebrate except the celebration. Maybe the 4th of July will be our only grounded holiday.... and then only if we can get our country back on a track that would let us celebrate.
Do you think holidays that actually celebrate something are permanently in the past?
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rurallib
(62,444 posts)Many holidays were stolen from pagan feasts and made into religious holidays. Now they seem to be reverting somewhat, but people can still have fun.
And the holidays still celebrate something (eg winter solstice & return of the sun) just maybe not what some folks like.
Did you ever think the green of St. Pat's Day has anything to do with Spring?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Christmas and Easter remain firmly grounded in the winter solstice and spring equinox. That they have lost the Christian spin on them is more of a return to what they had been traditionally about in the first place. The apostles did not observe either Christmas or Easter. They are simply not Christian holidays, but were accommodations to those traditional solar observances.
The summer solstice is close enough to July 4.
All we need to do is move Halloween back a bit to September for the fall solstice, and call it done.
struggle4progress
(118,332 posts)which is almost always near the Christian Easter
Easter is the first Sunday after the first full moon after the vernal equinox. So Easter can fall anywhere from March 22 to April 25
Passover begins the evening of 14 Nissan with the full moon, which is often the first full moon after the vernal equinox. But the Jewish lunar calendar, which from time to time inserts a month so as not to drift too far from the solar year, complicates matters
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jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Given that there is no support whatsoever for a historical plague upon the firstborn of Egypt, or for an exodus for that matter, its pretty clear that the origins of that equinox observance lay elsewhere. Its not some sort of accident that entirely different cultures had celebrations at approximately the same time.
struggle4progress
(118,332 posts)and the earlier dating of the holiday depended on the seeing certain signs, such as flowering
The relation to an astronomical event, such as the equinox, could then arise later from the fact that the astronomy could be related to the season
So it seems not to be exactly the equinox observance you would claim
Bluesaph
(703 posts)Just capitalisms excuse to make us go spend our money on junk to throw away a week later.
Hate Christmas. Hate Halloween. Hate valentines. Hate Easter. Hate them ALL! I even hate the Fourth of July since the American flag got hijacked by right wingers as their own personal article of worship.
Im not religious at all ... not even pagan which is the origin of almost all holidays.
Polybius
(15,472 posts)I personally love Independence Day and Christmas.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)Except that, I guess it assumes a belief in some higher power, otherwise who are you thanking?
Raine
(30,540 posts)your kids, your pets, your friends anyone you feel glad to have in your life because they've made your life better.
a kennedy
(29,699 posts)but be that as it may.....HAPPY LEPRECHAUN DAY to my good humans...... AND I WANT SHAMROCKS TO BUY AND GIVE AWAY. Is that ok to post that here?? *blushing*
Raine
(30,540 posts)makes it easier to tell one day from another instead of everything blending together.