wish list item since the days of Newt Gingrich and his Contract with America.

Some of those Players are still hanging around screwing up our Country.

It was quite carefully planned to allow certain members to vote "Yes" to provide political cover in their upcoming races.

It's not as dumb as you might think. They get to claim that they can be bipartisan without actually doing anything, and they give vulnerable members of their side a talking point for their campaigns.

We underestimate those cockroaches at our own peril. Win win for those Senators from a complicated(for them) position.

...and that was their mistake.

They could have gotten 67 votes and Trump would not have threatened a veto. The process would have died. As it is, it lives to haunt them another day.

They get no political cover. Ask Corey Gardner or Thom Tillis. They may think they get political cover but they do not.

The Rs who voted for it are the ones who got political cover. Many of them are in close races in purple states. The Yes votes allow them to pretend that they're occasionally bipartisan, as I noted, and also pretend that they don't always side with Trump. It's a win/win. They don't actually do anything but they can tell their constituents that they tried.

It's not as complicated as you seem to want to make it.

...and probably fearful of a primary challenge?

I think their vote was a loser.

That's why it was a little surprising that the two of them voted no. They had the opportunity to provide themselves the same cover the others got but didn't. Tillis seems to have bowed to pressure from Trump. Not sure what Gardner's excuse is.

..and talked them into voting against their interest and their country.

The Republican Party is in a sad shape.

they have to vote on the override...many "hid" behind their no vote as they knew it was going to pass regardless. So now we will have every single GOP'er on the record with the override vote.

That was the point I was trying to make. They maybe could have prevented the veto from Trump if they had voted right this time. Now they have nowhere to hide. They will have to defend their votes.

comes soon with the veto override vote in the House and Senate.

no more hiding. 2020 issues being made every day. In the upcoming election if I had my own superpac, I would run independent ads against all GOP'ers you refused to override the trump's veto with an ad that says "X" failed to protect the constitution and will allow the next president unsurpassed power to do what they please....

If you asked me what does the republican party stand for i would have to say they are a party of trolls, they are against things that the democrats stand for, and by and large, it is to fund raise off those positions that's we hold.