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NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:06 PM Mar 2019

I am not a Christian ...

... but I revere the words of the Nazarene, and respect those who have committed themselves to live according to those words.

As I have written before, you can’t be a Christian AND a Republican; you have to choose one or the other.

Christ admonished his followers to feed the hungry, shelter the homeless, and care for the sick and dying. The Republican party has consistently cut funding for social programs that feed the hungry, from food stamps to free school lunches for kids in poorer regions. They tried (and thankfully failed) to overturn Obamacare, their failed bill would have denied affordable healthcare to millions of people. They have also gutted programs that assist the homeless – many of whom are veterans.

Christ told his flock to be their brothers’ keeper, and to treat others as they would be treated – a far cry from Republicans who label immigrants as animals, rapists, drug-dealers, and disease-carrying terrorists. He admonished his true disciples to love their neighbours – while Republicans applaud separating children from their parents, and locking them in cages.

Republican values are completely at odds with Christian values – and now they’ve gone even further with their anti-Christian rhetoric and policies under Trump. I have heard so-called Christians state that Trump was “chosen by God” to be president. What true follower of Christ would believe that God himself chose a lying, self-proclaimed “pussy-grabber” to lead a nation?

For those who want to go old-school when it comes to scripture, when did “bearing false witness” become acceptable? When did “thou shalt not steal” become an unimportant in the face of a “pResident” who established a “charity” that he used to personally enrich himself? When did “thou shalt not commit adultery” get tossed aside?

When did vilifying people of different races, religions, or ethnicity become a “Christian value”? When did demeaning homosexuals or those who get abortions become a “Christian value” – when Jesus himself never spoke a word against either?

There’s a reason the Republican party has very specifically courted the votes of Evangelicals – because they are the most easily-manipulated people on earth. And now we are seeing the fruits of that labour as a lying, bigoted racist is praised for his every statement and every action that literally flies in the face of everything the Nazarene stood firmly against.

Those “Christians” who have aligned themselves with the party that denies assistance to the poor, the homeless, and the sick are NOT Christians. And those who embrace Trump are the most un-Christian among them. Perhaps it’s Trump’s orange spray-on tan that has blinded the easily-led – in the same way the Jews who Moses had delivered from slavery in Egypt abandoned their faith in order to worship a Golden Calf.

If you are following the lead of a party and a “pResident” whose policies are the embodiment of anti-Christian principles, you are NOT a Christian. You are just another mindless sheep following the Judas Goat who is leading you to the slaughter of everything you pretend to believe in.

I’ll say it again, so there is no mistake: I revere the words of the Nazarene, and respect those who have committed themselves to live according to those words.

That being said, I feel nothing but revulsion for those who have abandoned every Christian principle they once pretended to live by, in order to follow a man – and a party – that epitomizes the very opposite of what Christ preached, and what he admonished his followers to do.

The Republican party knew what they were doing when they targeted so-called “Christians” as being ripe for voting Republican. They knew they were dealing with people who were stupid enough to be turned against their own beliefs by appealing to their bigotry, their racism, their xenophobia, and their homophobia – all un-Christian beliefs – because their “Christian values” never really existed in the first place.

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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
1. Liberals have been making this case for decades and it hasn't made a dent.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:12 PM
Mar 2019

Republicans don't care. Not. One. Little. Bit.

Racism and sexism is what maintains the Republican Party. Christian or not, racism and sexism is what maintains support for the GOP.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
3. The greedy foment and exploit racism and sexism among the masses.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:21 PM
Mar 2019

Your typical Republican is primarily driven by racism and sexism.

Caliman73

(11,740 posts)
7. I think plenty of typical Republicans are driven by personal greed too.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:53 PM
Mar 2019

I agree that the powerful use racism, sexism, and fear to exploit the masses, but the masses are also driven by their own desire for money and power as well.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
9. Jesus Christ, if he actually existed was not a Christian either!
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:53 PM
Mar 2019

I assume there was a person named Jesus who preached radical love and forgiveness. But there is no way to know.

As a Free Thinker raised as a baptist I am of course influenced by the teachings of my youth. What I get from the teaching of Christ, removing the teachings of Paul who is the real founder of Christianity, is love of others. But other religions teach that as well.

The 3 main monotheistic religious all teach they alone as the true religions. I reject them all.

But respect those who have a faith as long as it is not an excuse to hate others. Which it too often is.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. You are right.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:58 PM
Mar 2019

They are not "Christians" either. Their hypocrisy makes me sick. I don't know how they can live with themselves.

Thank you Nance! Great post!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,865 posts)
11. I was raised Roman Catholic, and I long ago left that church.
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 12:11 AM
Mar 2019

Recently I've become friends with some Presbyterians, and with them I volunteer at the local homeless shelter, which is probably the most rewarding thing I have ever done.

While I will never formally convert, and I won't be attending Presbyterian services regularly, I have gained enormous respect for that denomination. I do believe there are several flavors of Presbyterians, and the one I hang out with is extremely liberal, which suits me wonderfully.

And none of them are Republicans.

rwsanders

(2,606 posts)
13. What is really scary is that I have been working my way through reading the bible again,
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 12:25 AM
Mar 2019

and
Oh wait, I forgot to say that I whole heartedly agree with you, one can NOT be a republican and a Christian. I put it this way, anyone who thinks that can either doesn't understand the bible or doesn't understand republicans.

But anyway, I was reading Jeremiah and the republicans are FOR everything that Israel was doing that God specifically said he hated.
Taking advantage of the poor, charging interest (yes any interest), mistreating foreigners, the list goes on and on, and God said that is why he allowed Israel to be destroyed. These were also the sins of Sodom NOT homosexuality.

He also said that the birds, animals and creatures of the sea were disappearing because of those sins of his people.

keithbvadu2

(36,835 posts)
14. Political Christians rather than Christians of faith.
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 01:07 AM
Mar 2019

Political Christians rather than Christians of faith.

They support Trump who says he is so perfect that he does not need Christ or his forgiveness.

Like today's evangelical/religious right supporters, Trump is a Political Christian, not a Christian of faith.

Evangelicals/religious right are easily able to spin their beliefs for political expediency.

The Donald who does not have to ask Jesus for forgiveness.

The Donald who ridicules Holy Communion.

Trump: Drink my little wine, have my little cracker

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/08/13/donald-trump-religion-serfaty-dnt-erin.cnn

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
15. At six years old I knew Catholicism was BS, as is all religious delusion.
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 06:26 AM
Mar 2019

Hard to respect anyone who continues to be sucked in by that fairytale.

Science prevails.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
16. I like to pick and choose which of the things in the bible
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 12:58 PM
Mar 2019

Are important and then tell Christians that if they don’t follow the ones I think are important, they aren’t real Christians.

I also know that the best way to change anyone’s mind is to tell them they’re too stupid to know that someone else is trying to manipulate them, so they should listen to me instead.

ooky

(8,924 posts)
17. Well, you have to keep in mind that the real reason these raging hypocrites are
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 01:49 PM
Mar 2019

in church in the first place is that they think that if their ass isn't seated in the pew at 11 AM every Sunday that God will send them to Hell, where they have been told they will burn like a piece of bacon, alive and screaming, for infinity.

Clearly from their own behavior, it has much less, if anything at all, to do with any love they have for their brethern or for mankind. Otherwise they wouldn't tolerate babies being taken away from their mothers and put in cages crying.

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