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Cattledog

(5,917 posts)
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 04:54 AM Mar 2019

Proposed Missouri Law Would Force Every Adult Resident to Buy an AR-15.

While Missouri politicians have long tried to outdo each other over pro-gun legislation, the latest bill may be impossible to top — a law mandating that every Missouri resident aged 18 to 35 purchase an AR-15-style rifle.

No, this is not the Onion. And yes, that's the very weapon targeted by gun reform activists and in an ongoing lawsuit filed by families of victims killed in the Sandy Hook massacre.

Introduced last month by state Representative Andrew McDaniel (R-Deering), the bill, titled the "McDaniel Militia Act," would create a state tax credit (capped at $1 million annually) to function as an incentive for residents not yet strapped with Big Government's preferred Big Gun — the AR-15. Purchasers could then claim the tax credit on up to 75 percent of the gun's cost.

The bill's text states, "Any person who qualifies as a resident on August 28, 2019, and who does not own an AR-15 shall have one year to purchase an AR-15... Every resident of this state shall own at least one AR-15" [emphasis added].

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2019/03/15/proposed-missouri-law-would-force-every-adult-resident-to-buy-an-ar-15?fbclid=IwAR2LV-cd4CHYLWquHUUDn9a7kWt2YG451sOYEtnBc-1kEtWssCOqYTQwDI8

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Proposed Missouri Law Would Force Every Adult Resident to Buy an AR-15. (Original Post) Cattledog Mar 2019 OP
Big guvernment said what? Canoe52 Mar 2019 #1
REQUIRED to purchase an AR15-style weapon? democrank Mar 2019 #2
Somebody's in the pocket of the gun octoberlib Mar 2019 #3
With all due respect, I don't want to own any gun. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #4
are these the same kinda 'get gov't out of my life' conservatives? KG Mar 2019 #5
Related News - Lawmaker: My Gun Bills Are a Total Scam M0rpheus Mar 2019 #6
Precisely what he was doing Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #8
These are the same Republicans who opposed procon Mar 2019 #7
100% hypocrites. Mention opposition to Obamacare to them and oasis Mar 2019 #10
And what if you have kids on anti-depressants? Ilsa Mar 2019 #9
please do not throw out that canard. it has been debunked. mopinko Mar 2019 #33
Please, show me. That is news Ilsa Mar 2019 #34
That might reduce the population of that state. sinkingfeeling Mar 2019 #11
Fewer fuckwads looking like him: dalton99a Mar 2019 #25
My sister lives in Missouri. Give her that gun and she will shoot herself in the foot. Croney Mar 2019 #12
This unconstitutional bill is a non-starter Generic Brad Mar 2019 #13
How many shares in CMMG and Black Rain Ordnance does McDaniel have? ck4829 Mar 2019 #14
I find it amazing that guns are don't have to be insured. Separate policy for each piece..so how UniteFightBack Mar 2019 #15
Insurance companies won't pay for illegal acts NickB79 Mar 2019 #17
Yet you are still required to carry home owners and car insurance. So I pay extra on my homeowners UniteFightBack Mar 2019 #19
Those policies typically cover unintentional acts NickB79 Mar 2019 #23
But Obamacare requiring us to buy health insurance is EVIL! NickB79 Mar 2019 #16
Many bills are introduced. Fewer are passed. MineralMan Mar 2019 #18
Kennasaw in Georgia did something similar. They can pass all the laws they want, but can't force Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #20
Whatever the process is that is required to remove this idiot from office... TwilightZone Mar 2019 #21
I wonder how he felt about the ACA individual mandate Takket Mar 2019 #22
This from the party that thought mandating the purchase of health insurance was end-times tyranny Azathoth Mar 2019 #24
Good point. nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #29
Missouri, the "Show Me Your AR-15" state dalton99a Mar 2019 #26
Only when they force it into my cold, dead hands. n/t Mister Ed Mar 2019 #27
i think ppl skipped post #6. Kurt V. Mar 2019 #28
I have noticed very few people read the entire thread before they post. former9thward Mar 2019 #32
Another Example of America's Peculiar Insanity Regarding Guns dlk Mar 2019 #30
More white wing GOPer gun BS. Hoyt Mar 2019 #31

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,865 posts)
4. With all due respect, I don't want to own any gun.
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 05:55 AM
Mar 2019

I personally wish others didn't own guns, but I'll be magnanimous and bow to the majority and say that it's okay that others own guns.

Perhaps an important point is, who will pay for my AR-15? What if my income is such that there is zero money left over after all of my expenses? And that's aside from I FUCKING DON'T WANT TO OWN A GUN.

Take a deep breath. I'm okay now.

Actually, I believe this kind of bullshit has been tried before, requiring everyone in a community to own a gun. And it's not enforceable.

I'd far rather all guns were confiscated. I know, I'm being silly, but bear with me for a bit. If no one had a gun, how do you suppose mass shootings would occur? Think about it.

And then remember how guns make us all safer. Especially when toddlers take a gun from mommy's purse and shoot her. Yes, safer. Or when a kid finds dad's gun in his bedside table and shoots his little sister. Yes, they are both safer, aren't they?

I am so fucking sick and tired of the excuses for gun ownership in this country that I am incoherent on this topic. Let's just take away all the guns and give it, I don't know, six months, and see what it's like. If gun deaths continue at the same rate they had before the gun takeaway, then obviously I'm an idiot and I don't know what I'm talking about. But if say, for instance, it works out as it did in Australia, and no more mass shootings occur, well then, what might we conclude? That guns make us safer? How about no guns make us a fuck of a lot safer?

M0rpheus

(885 posts)
6. Related News - Lawmaker: My Gun Bills Are a Total Scam
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 06:11 AM
Mar 2019
https://splinternews.com/lawmaker-my-gun-bills-are-a-total-scam-1833326426
An entire state full of adults required by law to own mass-shooters’ weapon of choice sounds crazy, right? But when I reached out to McDaniel, a former deputy sheriff in rural Pemiscot County, MO, to ask about his proposed legislation, he explained that, actually, he’s just using the insane-sounding legislation to get attention for a much more mundane goal, albeit one that’s equally gross which would get any GOP state legislator puppy at least one pat on the head from their local NRA lobbyist.

“I merely planned for media to write about it but would ultimately amend it to take out the mandates and requirements (age and type of gun) and turn it into a gun tax credit bill,” McDaniel told Splinter in an email.

Essentially, McDaniel just wanted the press to give his insane-sounding legislation a signal boost so his slightly less insane proposal—the tax credits—gets some free press. Missouri, by the way, boasts the seventh-highest rate of gun violence in the country, which costs residents an estimated $1.9 billion dollars each year. Nevertheless, McDaniel has decided his time as an elected official is best spent trolling the people in his state.


Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
8. Precisely what he was doing
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 06:47 AM
Mar 2019

A poor little boy looking for attention and playing the media. Sounds rather familiar........let me think 🤔.

procon

(15,805 posts)
7. These are the same Republicans who opposed
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 06:38 AM
Mar 2019

healthcare because the government was 'forcing' people to buy insurance to stay well and not be freeloading off the taxpayers for their uninsured medical care.

Now tell my why it's different when they say it's just peachy if the government wants to force people to buy a lethal weapon intended to kill people and associated with the worst mass murders in American history.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
34. Please, show me. That is news
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 09:00 PM
Mar 2019

to me. And doctors treating for depression sometimes ask about firearms in the home.

Croney

(4,661 posts)
12. My sister lives in Missouri. Give her that gun and she will shoot herself in the foot.
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 08:49 AM
Mar 2019

Or worse. Much worse.

Edit: Never mind, I see it's only for people 18-35. All of THEM would be experts with it.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
13. This unconstitutional bill is a non-starter
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 08:51 AM
Mar 2019

But it does offer insight into a dangerous mindset and we have to take it seriously. We need to fight extremist legislation like this wherever it pops up so we do not become desensitized to this extremism.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
15. I find it amazing that guns are don't have to be insured. Separate policy for each piece..so how
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 09:29 AM
Mar 2019

many guns do ya really need now?

NickB79

(19,257 posts)
17. Insurance companies won't pay for illegal acts
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 09:37 AM
Mar 2019

And using a gun to shoot someone is an illegal act. Similar to how your car insurance won't pay a survivor you intentionally ran over, or your homeowners insurance won't pay to rebuild your house if you intentionally torched it.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
19. Yet you are still required to carry home owners and car insurance. So I pay extra on my homeowners
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 09:42 AM
Mar 2019

because I have a dog but not because I have a gun.

NickB79

(19,257 posts)
23. Those policies typically cover unintentional acts
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 11:07 AM
Mar 2019

Your dog bites the neighbor's kid while walking, you're probably covered. You intentionally sicc (sp?) your dog on the kid to maul him, you're probably not covered.

There are insurance policies to cover accidental gunshot injuries, but they're mostly sold by the NRA, and they are very profitable for them.

NickB79

(19,257 posts)
16. But Obamacare requiring us to buy health insurance is EVIL!
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 09:33 AM
Mar 2019

The logical failure here boggles the mind.

Demsrule86

(68,613 posts)
20. Kennasaw in Georgia did something similar. They can pass all the laws they want, but can't force
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 10:22 AM
Mar 2019

anyone to buy them.

TwilightZone

(25,472 posts)
21. Whatever the process is that is required to remove this idiot from office...
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 10:34 AM
Mar 2019

should be started immediately.

I realize it's MO, but this is so dumb it should win an award.

former9thward

(32,030 posts)
32. I have noticed very few people read the entire thread before they post.
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 11:46 AM
Mar 2019

They read, or half read the OP and then throw a comment down. Then they leave.

dlk

(11,572 posts)
30. Another Example of America's Peculiar Insanity Regarding Guns
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 11:25 AM
Mar 2019

As this insane proposed legislation demonstrates, an assault weapons ban is long overdue.

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