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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJust like that, New Zealand will ban semi-automatic weapons
Lily Adams @adamslily 4h4 hours agoWell look at that.
Kenny Williams @Ohheykenny
Minister David Parker confirmed that Semi Automatic weapons will be banned in New Zealand.
Link to tweet
think progress: https://thinkprogress.org/new-zealand-to-ban-semi-automatic-rifles-after-mosques-mass-shooting-94368014abb4/
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Allow Americans to have as many single shot guns as they want. All the hunting rifles they want.
But no semiautomatic weapons.
Thats the ban we need. Ban semiautos.
(You could ban handguns too, as Canada does. But banning semiautos would get you most of the way there. Letting people have revolvers isnt a big deal. )
Raster
(20,998 posts)sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)... I think Liz Warren has the best plan for making corporations and billionaires less politically influential. Which would solve this problem and a lot of others.
Thats why Im for her.
Raster
(20,998 posts)...corporations should have NONE and billionaires can go...
Ohiogal
(32,017 posts)I love Liz Warren!
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)This is a public health emergency, a law enforcement nightmare, one of the few industries so unregulated they are not held responsible for the harm their products cause. Not acceptable.
Time to get these weapons out of the nutcases' hands.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)malaise
(269,096 posts)Others choose NRA money. Bravo New Zealand
Great news - now get thee to the greatest page
gopiscrap
(23,762 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)flying_wahini
(6,620 posts)Sarcasm
Baitball Blogger
(46,749 posts)America is now an example of what not to do.
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)...someone with a semi-automatic 7.62 weapon can absolutely obliterate dozens of people.
For years and years gun fanatics tried to make a distinction between "machine guns" and "semi-automatics."
The guy in Nevada proved that you could inflict mass damage without having a "machine gun."
They immediately banned bump stocks due to his actions.
We're going to have a reckoning eventually. Either make every public venue fully staffed with armed hired hands, or get rid of weapons of mass casualty infliction.
Sadly there's almost certainly another psycho out there right now planning something like this. And what makes it all the more disturbing is that a lot of these dudes are starting to let themselves be taken alive.
malaise
(269,096 posts)he was stopped or he would have killed dozens more
dlk
(11,572 posts)We are long overdue for another assault weapons ban, one that is permanent this time. At some point, reasonable people need to demand the carnage stop.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)sarisataka
(18,689 posts)New Zeland government procedures. Does a minister proclaiming something make it a law?
Or is the action within the minister's power to implement such a ban?
SunSeeker
(51,579 posts)They will go through their parliamentary processes to get it done, probably on an expedited basis.
Amishman
(5,558 posts)The real challenge is getting them out of circulation
Mandatory turn in will have low compliance. Threatening with felony charges doesn't work, the post Sandy Hook laws in NY and CT had less than 25% register.
Australia paid market value and still is thought to have had less than 50% turned in
To get most of the guns, you have to make the gunners want to turn them in. This means paying way above what the gunners paid for them. Make it the biggest financial windfall of their life and they'll whine, turn them in, and buy a new pickup truck with the money.
Iggo
(47,561 posts)Different Drummer
(7,624 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)As they emanate out their 'thoughts and prayers' into the universe, which SO obviously manifest themselves in concrete and verifiable results.
I mean, pfffft ... they COULD make it all magically go away, if Libtards would quit interfering with the whole process!
Canoe52
(2,949 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)being invaded on the southern border by "rapists, murderers, thugs". No mention of the invasion of human traffickers flying in, or sailing in. Some people believe anything the orange ass says. THAT is the problem with the US, too many dumb people who can not, or will not THINK for themselves. Maybe if the US had not invaded every other country, then people would live peacefully in their own countries? Until a nut with an automatic rifle manages to get into the House or the Senate, and shoot a few of our "leaders" NOTHING will be done. As long as they are safe, to HELL with the rest of us.
Hekate
(90,738 posts)IronLionZion
(45,471 posts)or their "well regulated militia".
So obviously, the next step for New Zealand is fascist oppression from their government, like American wingnuts keep warning about. And they'll have no guns to defend themselves from Jacinda Ardern's goons coming to F them up.
SunSeeker
(51,579 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)SunSeeker
(51,579 posts)Norman Conkedwest
(46 posts)New Zealand's government actually works.
cp
(6,643 posts)Good for New Zealand!
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pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)DirtEdonE
(1,220 posts)This brenton tarrant - would be what our gun junkies here would refer to as "a law-abiding citizen" - just before he murdered 49 helpless people in cold blood.
They're all "law-abiding citizens" until the moment when they aren't. And they are all armed at that point because they were "law-abiding citizens".
It's a deadly catch 22.
No one is a law-abiding citizen. No one needs these weapons. These textualists who insist the Constitution must be interpreted in a strict constructionist sense, like the better dead antonin scalia for example, somehow miss the fact that when it was written, the Constitution's reference to keeping "arms" referred to single load muskets.
According to the strict constructionists, that's the only weapon the gun junkies should be permitted to own.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,377 posts)to them what semi-automatic actually means.