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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMichael Avenatti's ex-wife Christine speaks out.
I don't know if there was a particular article she wrote this in response to. I haven't been following Avenatti, but this showed up in my Twitter feed today.
Link to tweet
Christine Avenatti Carlin
@avenatticarlin
Its disturbing that as the mother to @MichaelAvenattis daughters people continue to make up stories to serve one sided agendas and the press continues to report it. Im waiting to be contacted about our amicable divorce, daily contact, and active loving coparenting. It matters.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Was that in response to any suggestion there was some sort of issue involving her?
groundloop
(11,519 posts)ALSO.... all charges against him have now been dropped.
FakeNoose
(32,659 posts)... I guess she's tired of people trashing him over stupid crap.
onetexan
(13,044 posts)if you can be divorced from your spouse and still think well of him or her, that speaks volumes about the spouse.
The RW hate Avenatti and continue to drag him down with lies because he's been so outspoken about the Idiot and his minions.
I have nothing but respect for the man. While i know many don't like his showboating and view some of his comments as controversial, nothing he has said so far is enough to make me think unfavorably of him.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)His OTHER ex-wife is not a fan.
Also, not going to get four stars on Yelp from this unhappy customer:
https://nypost.com/2019/03/12/stormy-daniels-slams-avenatti-says-cohen-is-dumber-than-herpes-at-dc-event/
Stormy Daniels slams Avenatti, says Cohen is dumber than herpes at DC event
WASHINGTON Stormy Daniels called it adorable that ex-lawyer Michael Avenatti said he fired her during a speech to women at a private DC social club on Tuesday night.
He knew that I was unhappy and looking for new counsel, she told hundreds of women at The Wing, a private social club.
Daniels explained that the media-savvy lawyer pulled an I quit so you cant fire me.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)https://abcnews.go.com/US/lawyer-michael-avenatti-owe-wife-child-15-million/story?id=59749312
Storie said she directed her attorneys to take the aggressive legal action against Avenatti after months of fruitless efforts to settle and finalize the divorce.
It has been extremely difficult, as Michael has not participated in this divorce for a year, Storie said in a series of interviews in which she agreed only to address questions about the legal proceedings.
He was ordered by a judge in April to provide bank records and tax returns, which were never received, she said.
...
After Avenatti failed to meet a June deadline to produce the financial records, the judge admonished him in absentia in a July 16 hearing at which Avenatti did not appear.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Fooled again.
spanone
(135,851 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)dittohead teabag death threats.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)malaise
(269,087 posts)Michael Avenatti is the reason Cohen is singing like Pavarotti - that's good enough for me.
Thank you Michael.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,108 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)Avenatti was a catalyst .....I liked his in your face style...
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/19/nyregion/michael-cohen-search-warrant.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share
Federal authorities began investigating the email accounts of Michael D. Cohen, President Trumps former lawyer, as early as July 2017, only months after Mr. Trump took office, according to documents unsealed on Tuesday.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/19/nyregion/michael-cohen-search-warrant.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share
Federal authorities began investigating the email accounts of Michael D. Cohen, President Trumps former lawyer, as early as July 2017, only months after Mr. Trump took office, according to documents unsealed on Tuesday.
malaise
(269,087 posts)Avenatti sure made it public
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)It was blisteringly obvious in papers that had been filed in the Cohen prosecution by the government, which expressly referred to ongoing investigative work that had begun long before the April raid. I've been pointing that out for quite a number of months in relation to papers filed in the Cohen case.
Avenatti "making it public" accomplished nothing of consequence as far as the prosecution of Cohen was concerned. In fact, John Fry, the IRS agent who Avenatti foolishly put up to illegally obtaining Cohen's banking records (and finding out that several were already protected in the database as a result of the ongoing criminal prosecution of Cohen) is going to jail for it.
People who trusted Avenatti:
1. Stormy Daniels - now owes Trump $293K in legal fees, has fired Avenatti, and said he wasn't pursuing her interests.
2. John Fry - going to jail for illegally obtaining Cohens bank records which the FBI already had, for Avenatti to glorify himself.
3. Mareli Minuitti - Avenatti's girlfriend who received $30,000 from Avenatti's client trust account and still has a restraining order against him after their breakup over her payments from the trust account (and his recent false claim that she was a client, in order to justify those payments)
Avenatti is an irresponsible self-aggrandizing clown who hurts, betrays, or swindles everyone with whom he does business.
At least Shera Bechard has been able to recover $12,500 in attorney's fees from him so far after Avenatti screwed her out of the rest of the money that Broidy owed her.
You know who certainly knew this before today?
Avenatti certainly knew it. And he's been lying about it to you the entire time.
malaise
(269,087 posts)self-aggrandizing clowns who hurts, betrays, or swindle everyone with whom they do business.
As long as they help expose these monsters in office, I'm OK
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Avenatti hasn't exposed anything that wasn't already known. The payment to Daniels was known about in January 2018, when it was the subject of a Wall Street Journal article, and then the subject of two filings with the DoJ and the FEC made by Common Cause.
malaise
(269,087 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,761 posts)for at least a year before Avenatti filed the Daniels lawsuit.
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)- forget which program - they were talking about how Mueller was interested originally in Essential Consulting LLC, the one Cohen used for the Clifford/Daniels payments, but also used for the Novartis, AT&T and payments from the firm linked to Viktor Vekselberg, the Russian oligarch. There was no interest from Mueller/SCO in campaign finance violations, instead the SCO was looking how Essential Consulting was linked to payments from Russia/Russians and/or used to influence US policy. It was only when SCO handed a "portion" of its original investigation off to SDNY that SDNY independently began investigating the campaign finance related crimes. The MSNBC host asked specifically if it was the case that SDNY was the office that found, then prosecuted the campaign finance/hush money payments and the guest answered "yes" that was correct.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)malaise
(269,087 posts)that Avenatti made it national news and that has hastened the unraveling of the lunatic
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)unraveling the relationship between Cohen and the cretin.
malaise
(269,087 posts)home and office and then he was talking about the singing rat
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)just need to accept him as he is and what he was 'sent' to do ...we ain't electing him as a patron saint or something. He was perfect for this 'job'.
Unless he turns out to be a raging scumbag I'll always have some love for him.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Well, that's what Stormy Daniels has to say about him now.
You should have a look at what Avenatti did to his client Gregory Barela.
So, you don't think that paying his live-in girlfriend out of his client trust account (and then lying about her status as a client) qualifies? That's what the argument was about, and its why she still has a restraining order against him.
How about pocketing the money he collected from his PAC which didn't support a single candidate?
He didn't "hasten" jack shit in the Cohen investigation, and he quite possibly burned the possibility of Cohen actively cooperating with the prosecution to get more goods on Trump by shining a public spotlight on things that Mueller and the SDNY already knew about.
The deification of this con artist is disgusting.
DU did this with Assange, Snowden, Manning, and a bunch of others who turned out to be something quite different from what they initially presented themselves to be.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)He had nothing to do with the prosecution or flipping of Cohen.
He ended up saddling Stormy Daniels with a $293k judgment against her.
I gather we are throwing her under the bus now that she has finally figured out he wasn't working for her best interests?
Seriously, what was the "job"? What positive contribution did Avenatti make to anything or anyone?
Making people who watch TV shows feel good?
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)rump and Cohen's love affair went south....now ain't that sumthin.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...all kinds of things happened after Avenatti began trying to get his own television show. That doesn't mean he is responsible for any of them.
Their "love affair went south" after Cohen negotiated a plea deal with the SDNY prosecutors. That had nothing to do with anything involving Avenatti.
Avenatti's carnival barker act began in March of last year. Just what is the timeline you are suggesting, and what is the chain of cause and effect which would not have occurred but for any identifiable action Avenatti undertook?
And, to be clear, whether or not Avenatti was doing anything in the best interests of his client Stormy Daniels is entirely beside the point, yes?
His new job is attacking democratic candidates. I guess we're all down with that "job" too, eh?
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)find out what he's up to I'll be sure to check in with you since you seem to be keeping quite the tabs on him.
On my list of things to care about right now...yeah this is pretty far down on the list if at all.
malaise
(269,087 posts)edbermac
(15,942 posts)Last edited Sat Mar 16, 2019, 10:09 PM - Edit history (1)
Hope he destroys that little snot.
Link to tweet
Blue Owl
(50,448 posts)That twirp needs to be put away and Avenatti is the man to do it...
Oneironaut
(5,506 posts)That's outright psychotic.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)anymore.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,761 posts)$300K in attorneys' fees like Avenatti managed to do in Stormy Daniels' case.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)and the local might exercise some appropriate judgment.
The real estate agent's actual legal claims are very limited here. Minnesota does not have the sort of publicity/privacy protections that, say, California does, and the opportunity for recovery, even under a tenuous claim of false light publicity, would be extremely low. The real estate agent might (or might not) own the copyright in the photograph, which appears may be a selfie. So, assuming he registers the copyright, then he could get an injunction against its future use, but it is unlikely to have significant commercial value.
This is the "someone did something that upset me and I want to sue" kind of suit. Being star-struck and egged on by a media figure like Avenatti will make the "morning after" feel worse, once Wohl's lawyers decide to go digging into the guy's past on any reputation-based claims.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,761 posts)He's a guy who's been involved somewhat with the Prince estate, but he's a relative rookie (admitted in 2011).
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I was tangentially involved in one of the Prince estate matters, and it is one of the worst "let's milk the estate" schemes I have ever seen. The firm principally handling the estate (against the wishes of a fair chunk of the family) is going out of their way to make up as much "busy work" as they can in order to get the most out of it without having to wear masks and drive getaway cars.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,761 posts)came out of the woodwork, so a bank was appointed to manage the estate until the claims could be sorted out, but that bank and its lawyers have been generous with themselves. I live in Minneapolis, and I've followed the saturation coverage of the whole mess in the local media. https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2018/04/15/prince-estate-heirs/
There are still purple balloons on the fence around Paisley Park. Prince was a demigod around here.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,761 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Do they require a commercial benefit to be alleged?
Arguably, Wohl's bizarre behavior is a commercial enterprise of some kind, but I can't imagine what the measure would be here. Perhaps the value of re-tweets (which can be assigned a value).
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,761 posts)might not be much better than Avenatti. http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Redacted-Memo-in-Opp-to-Wheaton-and-Bruntjen-s-Mot-for-Approval-of-Payment.pdf I am familiar with the law firm that submitted this memorandum. They have a very solid reputation locally.
Oh, look, the court fined him: http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/10-PR-16-46/Re-Bruntjen-Documents-Filed-under-Seal.pdf
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,761 posts)who will act as his real lawyer, since Avenatti isn't licensed to practice law in Minnesota. Avenatti will probably be his TV lawyer. http://www.citypages.com/news/minneapolis-man-suing-jacob-wohl-for-allegedly-using-his-photo-in-fake-twitter-threat/507300961 Interestingly, Bruntjen was sued by Prince's half-brother, who claimed Bruntjen stole money from him from a bridge loan pending the settlement of Prince's estate. The case was voluntarily dismissed. https://theblast.com/prince-brother-sues-lawyer/
watoos
(7,142 posts)because he had the ability to change the right wing narratives.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,761 posts)And I wish the idolization of this guy would stop. He's not all that; he's a loud but not very skilled lawyer who managed to stick Stormy Daniels with a $300K bill for attorneys' fees she has to pay Trump because Avenatti didn't do his legal research when he sued Trump on her behalf for defamation. Nobody's afraid of him and he'll be lucky to keep his law license since he's been fiddling with his attorney trust accounts.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)Mueller was similarly lionized, must be the saying, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. The only problem with that is the other part, the enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.
IronLionZion
(45,466 posts)and there are powerful forces working against him because he's so effective
LiberalLovinLug
(14,175 posts)I don't know if he's being pressured by some group to stay on the down low, but I think he should come back all guns blazing.
I understand how he could make some Democrats nervous. Too brash, Too bold. But sorry, I'm sick of Dems careful dotting of the I's and crossing all the T's, counting to 100, checking in with the top dogs first for approval, and carefully parsing their words so much that all the sting is whittled away.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...then the fact that he is a thin-skinned coward has become all too obvious to many in the media:
Link to tweet
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)He is also a talented lawyer taking on good causes.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,761 posts)He's been using his attorney trust accounts to pay personal and business debts and hide assets from bankruptcy creditors. That's the sort of thing that gets lawyers disbarred. He also dicked up the Stormy Daniels case so badly that Daniels now owes Trump $300K in attorneys' fees. I wouldn't hire him to defend me in traffic court.
still_one
(92,273 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)His other ex-wife, I guess, doesn't matter to you...
https://abcnews.go.com/US/lawyer-michael-avenatti-owe-wife-child-15-million/story?id=59749312
Storie said she directed her attorneys to take the aggressive legal action against Avenatti after months of fruitless efforts to settle and finalize the divorce.
It has been extremely difficult, as Michael has not participated in this divorce for a year, Storie said in a series of interviews in which she agreed only to address questions about the legal proceedings.
He was ordered by a judge in April to provide bank records and tax returns, which were never received, she said.
...
After Avenatti failed to meet a June deadline to produce the financial records, the judge admonished him in absentia in a July 16 hearing at which Avenatti did not appear.
The Avenatti Fan Club on DU exists in a hermetically sealed dome which is very effective at blocking out any information about what sort of person he really is.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)prove me wrong.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Oh, and by the way, the "ex wife tweet" that is in the OP of this thread.... the account has disappeared.
Wonder why.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,761 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)hughee99
(16,113 posts)Ill bet former clients like Julie Swetnick are upset that people continue to make up stories to serve one sided agendas.
Kingofalldems
(38,461 posts)Which makes him okay with me.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,761 posts)Grifting lawyers who use their clients for their own purposes are not my friends regardless of their political affiliations. If they claim to be Democrats they are just embarrassing.