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PCIntern

(25,572 posts)
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:13 PM Mar 2019

Well I did hear something very interesting today:

As a healthcare practitioner I have to respect HIPAA regulations so you’re going to have to take my word, as a sixteen year DU member, that this came from a significant individual who is in a position to know:

Individual #1 has a problem - he took loans from the Russians WHO FORGAVE THE LOANS and #1 did not report it as income to the IRS.

Think Al Capone...thought this was “of note”.

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Well I did hear something very interesting today: (Original Post) PCIntern Mar 2019 OP
He has tons to worry about the instant he leaves the WH, which I say he will try to never do Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #1
The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceeding small Hekate Mar 2019 #2
I sure hope so. I do expect you're right. All this doubt people are expressing about PatrickforO Mar 2019 #17
How did you get the camera into Mar-a-Lago?! HAB911 Mar 2019 #23
Good. Thanks. elleng Mar 2019 #3
Was watching a Capone bio on the tv a few nights ago and I swear to you, I thought monmouth4 Mar 2019 #4
Oh, the irony Poiuyt Mar 2019 #14
Tax returns...tax returns Amaryllis Mar 2019 #5
I won't say a word. leanforward Mar 2019 #6
Yes! Why the hell so many LLC's? Something fishy! LiberalFighter Mar 2019 #8
Loan forgiveness is another way to launder money, I didn't know the Russians gave him loans uponit7771 Mar 2019 #13
Yep, as explained by Leo in Lethal Weapon 2 nt More_Cowbell Mar 2019 #19
Interesting. I believe you. Pepsidog Mar 2019 #7
Won't matter to his base. plimsoll Mar 2019 #9
+1 sandensea Mar 2019 #21
+100 for so many good points in your post. Agree there are no longer any moderate repuglicons. erronis Mar 2019 #24
This would be significant "kompromat" too. DeminPennswoods Mar 2019 #10
Makes sense PatSeg Mar 2019 #11
After all his talk about "being under IRS audit"... eggplant Mar 2019 #12
K&R... spanone Mar 2019 #15
When I think of Al Capone, I think of his bookkeeper. When I think of dumbfuck45, I think of Leghorn21 Mar 2019 #16
I would say this sounds plausible mercuryblues Mar 2019 #18
HIPAA Violation TlalocW Mar 2019 #20
Won't matter. DOJ won't prosecute and Republicans will applaud it as "great business instincts" nt Azathoth Mar 2019 #22
It would be heavenly if you're right!! Power 2 the People Mar 2019 #25
What does this have to do with HIPAA? cannabis_flower Mar 2019 #26
The clue is in the first five words of his post. ZZenith Mar 2019 #27
HIPAA stands for Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act cannabis_flower Mar 2019 #30
Here's what I think has happened: ZZenith Mar 2019 #31
Doctors are not priests, and we're not talking attorney client privilege here either... Native Mar 2019 #32
HIPAA restricts the disclosure of... lefthandedskyhook Mar 2019 #34
Can you say "tax evasion"? But Presidents can't be prosecuted. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #28
Does he also have a raging case of syphilis? n/t gldstwmn Mar 2019 #29
Follow the money... Wounded Bear Mar 2019 #33
That's what will bring down the whole criminal cabal. LuckyLib Mar 2019 #35

Eliot Rosewater

(31,113 posts)
1. He has tons to worry about the instant he leaves the WH, which I say he will try to never do
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:16 PM
Mar 2019

Mueller has indicted many.

SDNY will get the rest.

Time to focus on VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO

PatrickforO

(14,586 posts)
17. I sure hope so. I do expect you're right. All this doubt people are expressing about
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:19 AM
Mar 2019

the Mueller report - I don't think that's accurate. What I think is that becoming president was the absolute worst thing Trump could have ever done for his family and his family business. He might last until 2020, but the minute he's out of the WH, well, them wolves be HUNGRY!

Trump will lose everything, including his freedom.

Then we will have to clean up his mess while the Republicans whine on the sidelines like a bunch of Skeksis about how simply EVERYTHING is the Democrats' fault. Everything. It's that SOSHA-LISM!

monmouth4

(9,709 posts)
4. Was watching a Capone bio on the tv a few nights ago and I swear to you, I thought
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:23 PM
Mar 2019

wouldn't it be something if the IRS were the department to bring this orange abomination down? It's quite plausible. LOL for good thoughts for a change. DU is depressing tonight.

leanforward

(1,077 posts)
6. I won't say a word.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:37 PM
Mar 2019

When and where and how did the funds show up in the Organization's accounts? If you find out, I'll keep it a secret.

At this point I had not thought of loan forgiveness. I've always thought he was receiving their money.

In my reading around, it bothered me about the Organization's use of 400 plus LLCs.

plimsoll

(1,670 posts)
9. Won't matter to his base.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:55 PM
Mar 2019

1) The bigots won't care.
2) The small government crowd will think it's great that he wasn't paying his share.
3) The donor class think they pay to much already, why should he pay anything?

Other factors to consider: He's a rich white male, a jury might convict but a judge will consider his otherwise blameless life. Capone belonged to an ethnic group that wasn't always treated with respect at the time. So a little extra bigotry helped.

If we want change we need to keep resisting. And it is time to say that the phrase moderate Republican is meaningless. The extreme right is in charge of the GOP, and if you can't bring yourself to vote for a Democrat because "blah" why shouldn't you be considered a fellow traveler of the Neo-Nazi/White Nationalists?

sandensea

(21,650 posts)
21. +1
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 01:11 AM
Mar 2019

Sad - but all of it true.

He'll probably leave this world without ever really seeing justice.

His prodigal children, and larcenous son-in-law, though (and many others besides) - that's a different story.

DeminPennswoods

(15,289 posts)
10. This would be significant "kompromat" too.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:09 PM
Mar 2019

I've thought all along that the hold Putin has over Trump is that he knows, can prove and get the word out that Trump's "rich, competent businessman" persona is a complete fraud. IMHO, lsoing that image is what Trump fears most.

PatSeg

(47,560 posts)
11. Makes sense
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:53 PM
Mar 2019

The "king of debt" all of a sudden was using cash to buy real estate in the early 2000s. It seemed to just fall from heaven. Did he think no one would notice?

eggplant

(3,912 posts)
12. After all his talk about "being under IRS audit"...
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:54 PM
Mar 2019

...it would be wonderfully delicious if that were the one true thing he has said, and it was the thing that brings him down.

Leghorn21

(13,526 posts)
16. When I think of Al Capone, I think of his bookkeeper. When I think of dumbfuck45, I think of
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:00 AM
Mar 2019

Allen Weisselberg. And I think oh please please please, let’s do this thang, Allen!!!

Appreciate your post here, helps me keep the faith!

mercuryblues

(14,537 posts)
18. I would say this sounds plausible
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:21 AM
Mar 2019

We know trump had many dealings with Russia. We know that money changed hands. We know that trump files for bankruptcy a lot. We know trump refuses to pay workers. Why would paying Russia back be any different?

It would also explain that picture of trump & Putin after a private meeting. Putin looks like the cat who ate the canary and trump looked like his ice cream cone fell on the floor.

Trump runs for president. Russia interferes so he will win. Russia forgives his loans. Of course trump won't claim that on his taxes. Kompromat. They want sanctions lifted. Putin tells trump that in return for forgiving the loans to lift the sanctions. trump finds out, once he is in office that he can't unilaterally lift them. Putin handpicks who will cooperate with Mueller.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
30. HIPAA stands for Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 05:24 PM
Mar 2019

What does that have to do with Individual #1's Russian loan?

ZZenith

(4,125 posts)
31. Here's what I think has happened:
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 05:45 PM
Mar 2019

The original poster was prefacing the information he was about to impart by telling us that, because he is in the medical profession (perhaps as a dentist? Can’t say for sure) he cannot be more specific about the identity of the person who relayed the information he is now relaying to us due to the confidentiality constrictions of said HIPAA act. The insinuation being, if he could name this person, the content of what he said would have weight with the reader.

But I am high as a kite at the moment, so I might be reading it wrong.

Native

(5,943 posts)
32. Doctors are not priests, and we're not talking attorney client privilege here either...
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 05:53 PM
Mar 2019

HIPPA has to do with protected medical information. Don't think this qualifies as such.

lefthandedskyhook

(965 posts)
34. HIPAA restricts the disclosure of...
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 08:06 PM
Mar 2019

...patient information on established legal grounds. The post is set outside HIPAA regulations due to those restraints

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
28. Can you say "tax evasion"? But Presidents can't be prosecuted.
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 03:40 PM
Mar 2019

So he'd have to amend those returns, pay the taxes, penalties, and interest. I wonder what the statute of limitations is, and whether they would indict him for that (like Leona Helmsley)?

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