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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,189 posts)
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 11:53 AM Mar 2019

Why I'm feeling a lot more relaxed today than last night.

We still don't know what is in that report, or what it recommends, or what it finds or what it doesn't find.

And that is fine. As I say, for now, accept the mystery.

Eventually, for better or worse, we will find out.

But in the meantime, think of this:

Think about the man who is at the very center of the reports findings.

Think about how this man's behavior and his actions for all his life.

Think about how hateful and divisive he is. How he has demonized entire groups of people just because what country they have come from or what religion they might practice.

Think about how he spent all his life avoiding paying his creditors, or refuses to have his finances publicly scrutinized, or has inflated his own wealth.

Think about his very worst human impulses he happily admits to ("Grab em by the pussy" )

Think about how he has viciously attacked people, political opponents or even members of his own party (e.g. McCain) for the very slightest of reasons.

Think about how he has attacked the principle of the free press, or free speech.

Think of his supporters, and how quickly they have been prone to violence or talk of violence.

And most importantly, think about his odd relationship and statements when it comes to adversaries and despots, and how he openly desires to have close relationships with some of the worst people on the planet, and how he wants their assistance in everything. Including for winning elections ("Russia, if you're listening...." )

This is not a good man we are dealing with.

This is an extremely bad man with bad motives and bad principles. By far he is the worst person I have ever seen in my life come out of my own country, and that's not an exaggeration to say the least.

If the Mueller report was indeed honest and independent and free of interference, I just find it very hard to believe that this man who exhibits the worst of human behavior is somehow deemed blameless.

Of course, that's still a big "if", but for the time being, I will believe that it will be. And I remain optimistic.

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Why I'm feeling a lot more relaxed today than last night. (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2019 OP
We don't know for sure what could be in the report. rzemanfl Mar 2019 #1
That's right thegoose Mar 2019 #2
Repeat after me, lifetime of crimes, SDNY and Manhattan will finally get him when he Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #3
We don't even know if he's lucky yet. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2019 #4
I meant lucky up till now, the implication is he is innocent, which he isnt. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #5
No he wasn't lucky. He most likely had help. rockfordfile Mar 2019 #7
Combination. He clearly had help and it was a matter of how much work Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #8
At the minimum everything we hear in the media should be in the report lancelyons Mar 2019 #6
Seth Abramson has put it all in order last night and this morning. Grasswire2 Mar 2019 #9
I have become a huge fan of his. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2019 #10
He's still tweeting away this morning. Grasswire2 Mar 2019 #13
I feel somewhat better today. lucca18 Mar 2019 #11
Great tweet from John Dean: gldstwmn Mar 2019 #12
Does anyone remember that time Chuck Grassley and Diane Feinstein Mr. Evil Mar 2019 #14
Yup - their body language spoke thousands of words. I wouldn't say sullen erronis Mar 2019 #17
I was feeling horrible last night. I looked up what Fitzmas means. I think it's the same situation. Pepsidog Mar 2019 #15
Not only do I not know what's in the report, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2019 #16
And besides the other federal/state investigations on-going, there are plenty of cons that dump erronis Mar 2019 #18

Eliot Rosewater

(31,113 posts)
3. Repeat after me, lifetime of crimes, SDNY and Manhattan will finally get him when he
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:00 PM
Mar 2019

leaves that house.

Saw someone say if he had a lifetime of crimes why wasnt he already prosecuted. That is a rightwing talking point, and I saw it HERE.

He was lucky, I dont know why, but he is guilty of a lifetime of crimes.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,113 posts)
5. I meant lucky up till now, the implication is he is innocent, which he isnt.
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:07 PM
Mar 2019

I firmly believe he goes to prison if he leaves the WH

Eliot Rosewater

(31,113 posts)
8. Combination. He clearly had help and it was a matter of how much work
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:25 PM
Mar 2019

the law wanted to do, dealing with him would be a long process, etc.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
6. At the minimum everything we hear in the media should be in the report
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:21 PM
Mar 2019

I cant imagine Mueller doing a report that does not include all the stuff we already hear in the media.

We already know that he was forbidden from indicting a sitting president.

So I suspect the report will discuss everything we all know probably happened.

Now Barr could try tweak his words to be what trump wants but that would quickly be discovered.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
9. Seth Abramson has put it all in order last night and this morning.
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:40 PM
Mar 2019

He has done us an immeasurable service on his twitter feed (linked on DU this morning)

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,189 posts)
10. I have become a huge fan of his.
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:44 PM
Mar 2019

I was originally skeptical of him, but I'll be damned if he just hasn't provided remarkable analysis of the entire situation. Never thought I would ever say that about anyone on Twitter.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
13. He's still tweeting away this morning.
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 01:10 PM
Mar 2019

I am very thankful for his ability to prioritize information and communicate it to us.

lucca18

(1,243 posts)
11. I feel somewhat better today.
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:57 PM
Mar 2019

I know that will only last so long before I become upset all over again.

I am looking for the light at the end of the tunnel.
I want truth and justice.
I want crooked trump held accountable!

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
12. Great tweet from John Dean:
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:59 PM
Mar 2019

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump and his minions think they dodged a bullet. I have a notion — only a recurring though — that Mueller delivered a bomb to AG Barr, who is now trying to figure out how to tell Trump in a way that doesn’t cause him to start World War III. Barr knows he works for a psycho.</p>— John Dean (@JohnWDean) <a href="


?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Evil

(2,853 posts)
14. Does anyone remember that time Chuck Grassley and Diane Feinstein
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 02:15 PM
Mar 2019

gave a press conference after going to a private meeting about the Trump investigation? They came out of the room to address the reporters that were gathered looking very sullen like they had just seen a mutilated body. I still wonder what that was all about.

erronis

(15,324 posts)
17. Yup - their body language spoke thousands of words. I wouldn't say sullen
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 02:52 PM
Mar 2019

but rather thunderstruck by what they had learned.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,362 posts)
16. Not only do I not know what's in the report, ...
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 02:41 PM
Mar 2019

... I don't even know what I would like to see in the report.

Do I want proof that Russia picked our president?

Do I want to see Trump kicked out, thus promoting President Pence?

At this point, I think all I really want is for the 2020 elections to end with a resounding "D" in the White House, Senate, House, and in many state governments.

Still, like a spectator at a train wreck, I watch and wait.

erronis

(15,324 posts)
18. And besides the other federal/state investigations on-going, there are plenty of cons that dump
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 02:56 PM
Mar 2019

conned who will have very sharp knives waiting.

These may include investors in his ponzi schemes and may include some us/foreign mobsters who will want to see repayment, or blood.

Kushners and children will not be exempt from retribution.

And history will stain them forever.

Good job there donnie putin.

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