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LonePirate

(13,431 posts) Sun Mar 24, 2019, 04:16 PM Mar 2019

Impeachment is now officially off the table

Mueller was the only one who could give any momentum to a possible impeachment, if he had found evidence of crimes of some nature. His report includes no such findings. As such, all hearings and investigations from here on out will be even more hyper-partisan than previously. 45 will soon begin a victory tour and we are truly fucked as is now in an even stronger position in 2020 than he was before Friday.

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Impeachment is now officially off the table (Original Post) LonePirate Mar 2019 OP

Pelosi was smarter than all of us, knew the fix was in JCMach1 Mar 2019 #1

not all of us. Those of us who knew Pelosi through the years, were well aware she knew what she was still_one Mar 2019 #6

NOPE..it is up to CONGRESS to decide that... asiliveandbreathe Mar 2019 #2

You are correct, it isn't off the table. What we know is that the Mueller report did not conclude still_one Mar 2019 #7

It will also be interesting to hear how this admin and it's minions try to slice and dice the report asiliveandbreathe Mar 2019 #9

I think you are right. still_one Mar 2019 #11

Sad to say keith sw Mar 2019 #3

Pelosi looks pretty prescient at the moment. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #4

Have you read the report ? CentralMass Mar 2019 #5

I actually think this helps the dems... Buckeyeblue Mar 2019 #8

Impeachment didn't get any easier but I don't think it's off the table Runningdawg Mar 2019 #10

SDNY, NYAG, others will have a say on that subject, as will the counterintelligence investigation! tableturner Mar 2019 #12

NOPE !! CONGRESS Determines obstruction not AG Barr !!! PERIOD !!! uponit7771 Mar 2019 #13

No, it's not. Igel Mar 2019 #14

JCMach1

(27,575 posts)

1. Pelosi was smarter than all of us, knew the fix was in

Reply to LonePirate (Original post)

Sun Mar 24, 2019, 04:20 PM

Mar 2019

still_one

(92,433 posts)

6. not all of us. Those of us who knew Pelosi through the years, were well aware she knew what she was

Reply to JCMach1 (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 24, 2019, 04:25 PM

Mar 2019

doing

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)

2. NOPE..it is up to CONGRESS to decide that...

Reply to LonePirate (Original post)

Sun Mar 24, 2019, 04:20 PM

Mar 2019

It’s likely, however, that the most important “report” of them all will be the briefing that DOJ must provide to the congressional intelligence committees conveying the results of the counterintelligence investigation Mueller has superintended. In order to comply with the requirement of keeping those committees “fully and currently informed” of the results of the investigation, that briefing—which will probably include at least some written document—should include Mueller’s assessment, if any, about whether, how and to what extent Trump is compromised or is otherwise unable to perform his constitutional duties on behalf of the nation when it comes to the Russian threat to our electoral system. Does Trump have financial obligations to Russian interests?

Was he—and more at article...

https://www.justsecurity.org/63355/now-muellers-probe-is-over-should-and-will-his-findings-be-made-public-law-and-past-practice/

still_one

(92,433 posts)

7. You are correct, it isn't off the table. What we know is that the Mueller report did not conclude

Reply to asiliveandbreathe (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 24, 2019, 04:29 PM

Mar 2019

that Trump obstructed justice, but it also did not exonerate him.

It will be interesting how the MSM presents this. Hopefully, it won't be like they did when Comey released the letter to the republicans in Congress 11 days before the election saying the "email investigation was reopened", which was a lie

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)

9. It will also be interesting to hear how this admin and it's minions try to slice and dice the report

Reply to still_one (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 24, 2019, 04:34 PM

Mar 2019

to fit their narrative - the gym jordans and mmeadows of the world will start to sputter..but, my gut tells me they will for the most part hold back any joyful rhetoric....

the counter-intelligence report will be interesting....

https://www.justsecurity.org/63355/now-muellers-probe-is-over-should-and-will-his-findings-be-made-public-law-and-past-practice/

still_one

(92,433 posts)

11. I think you are right.

Reply to asiliveandbreathe (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 24, 2019, 04:35 PM

Mar 2019

keith sw

(45 posts)

3. Sad to say

Reply to LonePirate (Original post)

Sun Mar 24, 2019, 04:20 PM

Mar 2019

It hasn't been on the table since Barr was named AG. We all knew Trump would replace his AG until he found someone that would play ball. When Barr took the job, I knew from his past this would be bad for us.

TwilightZone

(25,493 posts)

4. Pelosi looks pretty prescient at the moment.

Reply to LonePirate (Original post)

Sun Mar 24, 2019, 04:22 PM

Mar 2019

Not sure I agree with your other assertions. This might provide a blip for Trump, but I don't think it's going to help him long-term.

As for the victory tour, he's been running one since inauguration day.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)

5. Have you read the report ?

Reply to LonePirate (Original post)

Sun Mar 24, 2019, 04:24 PM

Mar 2019

Buckeyeblue

(5,502 posts)

8. I actually think this helps the dems...

Reply to LonePirate (Original post)

Sun Mar 24, 2019, 04:29 PM

Mar 2019

Impeachment was always going to be difficult because of the numbers in the Senate. Had Mueller came to a different conclusion, 45 would have screamed witch hunt and everything else. But now he can't.

And what Mueller was able to find, items related to crimes committed by the family business, may bleed the Trump's dry.

Also, 45 can't use this investigation to divert from the issues. Which means he has to own the wall, he has to own the clusterfuck that is NK, he has to explain reversing decades of Russian policy and how he defers to Putin over our intelligence community, he has to own his racist policies, he has to own a new tax code that is driving the deficit up while increasing taxes on middle America by eliminating certain deductions, and he has to own the general incompetence of his administration. It goes on.

Runningdawg

(4,526 posts)

10. Impeachment didn't get any easier but I don't think it's off the table

Reply to LonePirate (Original post)

Sun Mar 24, 2019, 04:35 PM

Mar 2019

I want to see a deep investigation into how the Kushers obtained their "security clearances", why they use private email and why the entire family are allowed to use unsecured phones. Then, we have the subject of emoluments. Time to pop the top on that can of worms.