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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo Dump and his campaign never colluded nor conspired...
...with any Russians.
And we are suppose to be pleased with Mueller?
Hands off of him?
I'm confused.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,831 posts)Big difference, maybe.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)He's working with Barr.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,831 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)To decide what gets released.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)wives go to bible study together. (thanks for info Colgate).
greyl
(22,990 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)greyl
(22,990 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)it was fuzzy. Think Trump fired him after his first, futile attempt at third party in order to demean Pat Buchanan.
TalenaGor
(1,104 posts)I believed in him the entire time I trusted his integrity I believed he was doing the best he could do.....
I have not seen his report....it's highly likely that it says something completely different then what Barr says
it's also possible that he totally knew that the fix was in and he fed stuff to other entities such as states and/or Congress..... And who knows who else......
It could be he knew that the path Justice was not through his boss.....
It also could be that behind the scenes it was completely shut down they may have threatened his family for all we know...
Russia might have stepped in and threatened to Nuke the United States or something crazy....
We just don't know...... But I don't think this is over. And until I have a reason to question his integrity I'm not going to.....
I definitely don't think that bar honestly represented whatever Mueller came up with.....
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madaboutharry
(40,219 posts)And I think the only way anyone will know the truth is if there is someone who will leak the unedited report.
What we can expect now is a sanitized version written by Barr. This whole thing is a farce.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)follows all rules, protocols, and authority chains, and the other, in bed with Trump. What could go wrong there?
We need to let it play out and FOCUS on protecting the swing state voting systems. And that, coming from me, who has always been about nailing him, says a lot.
Leith
(7,813 posts)A thinking person may consider the mysterious addition to the 2016 rethug platform about supporting who-the-heck-knows in Ukraine to be a type of foreign collusion. Others may have their suspicions about tRump's secret meetings with Pootin. Perhaps it was the nonstop squealing about witch hunts, hoaxes, and "no collusion!" that would make Lady MacBeth wonder what the fuss was about.
rethugs don't seem to have noticed anything. They are the Mr. Magoo of our alternativized world.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,831 posts)Until we open it, it's collusion and no collusion at the same time.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)greyl
(22,990 posts)The Barr summary does not say "... his campaign never colluded nor conspired".
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Which is fukcing weasel words if there ever were any.
Established could very easily mean 'to the point we'd take it to court', which is a far cry from 'no evidence'.
And of course, all they ever dealt with was cutouts and oligarchs. No Russian Senators contacted TrumpCo ffs.
Not colluding with the formal GOVERNMENT doesn't mean shit, esp. not when it comes to Russia.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Gotta give Chuck Todd credit for making that point, too, right out of the gate.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Trump asked for Russian assistance.
Trump received Russian assistance.
Trump benefited from Russian assistance.
Trump rewarded Russian assistance.