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Think of the mothers of sons: Notre Dame mom begs female students to stop wearing leggings, sparking protestsBy Antonia Noori Farzan March 28 at 5:40 AM
While attending Mass at the University of Notre Dame last fall, Maryann White saw something that horrified her: Leggings.
A group of young women, all clad in tight, clingy Spandex and short tops, were sitting directly in front of her and her family.
I thought of all the other men around and behind us who couldnt help but see their behinds, the self-described Catholic mother of four sons wrote in a letter to the editor that was published by the Observer, Notre Dames student newspaper, on Monday. My sons know better than to ogle a womans body certainly when Im around (and hopefully, also when Im not). They didnt stare, and they didnt comment afterwards. But you couldnt help but see those blackly naked rear ends. I didnt want to see them but they were unavoidable. How much more difficult for young guys to ignore them.
Begging female students to think of the mothers of sons the next time you go shopping and consider choosing jeans instead, White explained in her letter that she had hoped that leggings would eventually go out of style, but that hadnt happened yet. Maybe, she proposed, Notre Dame women could be the first to start a trend by simply choosing not to wear the wildly popular stretchy pants.
Her plea appears to have had the opposite effect: By way of responding to her complaints, more than 1,000 students at the private Catholic University indicated that they planned on showing up to class in their leggings this week.
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octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Leggings have been a thing for years now.
3_Limes
(363 posts)Who would they actually be injuring? Is she saying that it's the mothers that should be thought about bec' they now have to worry that their sons will be drawn into 'sin' by these 'blackly naked' girls? And Mother has to step in and save them. Which is a hassle for Mom?
I'm not getting this.
3_Limes
(363 posts)uhh....
Isn't that at least part of the point?
secondwind
(16,903 posts)blackly naked mean?
Anyone?
Bettie
(16,126 posts)that they were all wearing black leggings.
But who freaking knows? And why would she use that as a description?
secondwind
(16,903 posts)2naSalit
(86,794 posts)I noticed that right away. Never heard that one before.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)and would never ask a woman not to wear them,
I wish people would dress better for Mass, or any religious service for that matter.
hlthe2b
(102,376 posts)It does seem jarring to see people dress as though they grabbed whatever was thrown on the floor the night before...
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Somehow, I dont think Jesus would mind.
hlthe2b
(102,376 posts)OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)do I have to add "during ski season"?
obamanut2012
(26,142 posts)Saying people need to "dress better" for Mass, or any religious service, is nothing but the sin of vanity and elitism. Were these young women respectful during Mass? Did they laugh and point and made remarks? No, they prayed and listened to the homily. and probably took the Eucharist.
Who cares what anyone wears to Mass? Why do YOU care? God doesn't. Jesus, God made flesh, states the same in the NT.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)But I do. I think rituals deserve a level of formality.
Its fine with me if you dont agree.
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)Yeah, I am over 70 years old. But, I gotta tell ya, the sure as hell beat support hose. Not just for looks, but for dealing with my own ego that I am no longer a "young" person with good knees!
whathehell
(29,094 posts)After not attending church for several years my husband and I decided to go one Sunday.. We wore a.suit and a dress, respectively, and were almost embarrassed by how "overdressed" we were!..I say "almost" because I couldn't believe how sloppy-bad so many others looked.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Jebus
hlthe2b
(102,376 posts)So, how does one see another's backside when they are seated in pews in front of you? Aren't they "sitting" on their backsides?
As for the other questions... oh, hell, I don't care.
3_Limes
(363 posts)So you'd definitely have a few minutes to admire god's handiwork if you were so inclined.
hlthe2b
(102,376 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)Stand up, sit down. By the time I realized it was time to stand, everyone
was sitting down. Very awkward. Then the time came for the communion.
I knelt with my mouth open. The priest came to me and said "You're not
confirmed are you?" No cookie for you. I got up and walked out.
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)Everyone is encouraged to take communion at my church. No one is going to interview you to see if you're worthy.
The stand up, sit down stuff is true, but no one cares if you get it right.
caraher
(6,279 posts)12 years of Catholic school, too many Masses, lots of time for the mind to wander (I used to mentally diagram the sentences of the homilies of one particular long-winded priest; they tended to be very long with the main clause coming only at the very end).
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,463 posts)... making rear ends?
3_Limes
(363 posts)If a bunch of buff young guys were wearing similar clothing, what would her reaction be?
delisen
(6,044 posts)Sex as we know it will be confined to reality vacationing and planned reproduction--and by the 21st century planned reproduction will be initiated without physical contact between humans.
llmart
(15,553 posts)rictofen
(236 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,215 posts)Heaven forbid her sons should get BONERS from looking at girlz. That's really what it's about. Adults are freaked out about teens having PERFECTLY NORMAL sexual feelings.
Freddie
(9,275 posts)In 9th grade, the priest teaching health class at Cardinal OHara told the boys that getting a boner was a sin. Thats the day he stopped being Catholic.
That was what they told us young people back then. Sexual feelings were sinful.
Sinful unless you were a priest, I guess.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,215 posts)BONERS! How can they be sinful?!
Freddie
(9,275 posts)misanthrope
(7,428 posts)of young penises with an erection of his own?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Problem solved.
brooklynite
(94,737 posts)Spandex clad bodies are one thing, but imagine the impact of those flaxon tresses on the impressionable males.....
Initech
(100,104 posts)Moostache
(9,897 posts)These types of holy-rollers make me want to vomit on their heads...
Initech
(100,104 posts)"Are these morons getting louder or dumber?"
"Dumber, sir!"
Moostache
(9,897 posts)Blue Owl
(50,505 posts)Freethinker65
(10,055 posts)Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)Stop dressing a certain way because you are distracting/enticing/encouraging/tempting/forcing my sons and other sons....
That mother of sons can go fuck herself.
That mother of sons wasn't commenting on what was proper for Mass - she was commenting on how women dress and how that impacts the sons of stupid mothers who blame victims for the actions of their rapist sons.
That mother of sons was blaming how a woman dresses on how men react - in word or in deed.
Fuck her and everyone like her.
MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)banning leggings and yoga pants in the state legislature here in MT a few years back. It didnt end well for him.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)But seriously leggings are actually a turn off if one has a certain body type. Girls usually know how to emphasize the positive, and not draw attention to the negative. Hey, I think that is how the species continues to exist!
Freddie
(9,275 posts)For the same reason I dont wear shorts - dont want to frighten the neighbors.
Ohiogal
(32,068 posts)Nay
(12,051 posts)scare the horses.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Hugin
(33,207 posts)Wasn't there something in Genesis about this type of thing?
Oy.
I think people should wear what they're comfortable in... Life is brutally short, especially, with fundamentalists in charge.
Cousin Dupree
(1,866 posts)sexual urges. God made them that way.
2naSalit
(86,794 posts)And how dare those little hussies defy her beliefs!
PufPuf23
(8,839 posts)3_Limes
(363 posts)I think I'd like to get a few for my sons and their friends.
PufPuf23
(8,839 posts)'A lost classic of underground cartooning, Binky Brown Meets the Holy Virgin
Mary is Justin Greens autobiographical portrayal of his struggle with
religion and his own neuroses. Binky Brown is a young Catholic battling all
the usual problems of adolescencepuberty, parents, and the fear that the
strange ray of energy emanating from his private parts will strike a picture
of the Virgin Mary. Deeply confessional, with artwork that veers wildly
between formalist and hallucinogenic, Binky Brown Meets the Holy Virgin Mary
is the controversial masterpiece that invented the autobiographical graphic
novel."
https://www.amazon.com/Binky-Brown-Meets-Holy-Virgin/dp/193478155X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2EGIK2C2HGVQR&keywords=binky+brown+meets+the+holy+virgin+mary&qid=1553793057&s=books&sprefix=binky+brown+meets+mary%2Caps%2C1068&sr=1-1-catcorr
Feel like I have done useful today now.
Fullduplexxx
(7,870 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,466 posts)to the Walmart store
unblock
(52,328 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,290 posts)Or Velcro -- whatever.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Was it so very long ago that young women wearing jeans was where leggings are now?
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)Locally people like this got a store to remove a painting of the Venus de Milo from a store because boobies is dirty. What would we do without such valiant protectors of the public morals. This woman's story sounds like something from a Church Lady sketch from SNL.
procon
(15,805 posts)women have butts and they aren't afraid to use them?
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)"My sons know better than to ogle a womans body certainly when Im around (and hopefully, also when Im not). They didnt stare, and they didnt comment afterwards."
"But you couldnt help but see those blackly naked rear ends. I didnt want to see them but they were unavoidable."
3_Limes
(363 posts)And my cats don't go up on the counters either!!
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)jalan48
(13,886 posts)wryter2000
(46,082 posts)She has an issue with blackness?
Grammy23
(5,813 posts)A couple of years ago I discovered the joy of wearing leggings, although my age and body type advise against them. I wear them with longish tunic tops that cover any offending parts. If anyone takes offense, I hate it for them.
Im at an age where comfort is more important than what the fashion police dictate. That goes double for shoes. A few years ago some people began dressing down for church. Some churches even had early services for those inclined to dress in shorts and tee shirts, while reserving the later morning for the suit, dresses and tie crowd. I thought it was a smart move to try to stop the exodus of church members who were tired of dressing up on Sunday.....among other reasons.
The lady who was soooo offended at the sight of the Blackley Naked butts should have had her eyes on the cross or at least the pastor. Then she would have had her mind on the subject at hand instead of worrying about her sons sins all because of the brazen hussies sitting in front of her.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,595 posts)In this case it took only a couple of viewers out of tens of thousands to humiliate the weather girl.
rictofen
(236 posts)could lock his office door with a button under his desk, typically after a woman entered.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)to stop getting their mothers to fight their battles.
GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)...around women in clothing she perceives as somehow being "improper, " apparently. It sounds to me like she's not very confident about the way she raised her children, and now she wants the school to fix things. If your sons can't control themselves around women in leggings, that's on YOU and the way you raised them, Mrs. White.
SWBTATTReg
(22,166 posts)a busy body and it's none of her business what the dress attire of these young ladies, especially at a school Mass when the priest could had said something but didn't (obviously), so who made her the queen of dress codes for females?
3_Limes
(363 posts)same person who confers this type of title on anybody: God!
How can you possibly argue with that!!??
/scarcasm
Oneironaut
(5,524 posts)At their core, they believe women are inferior to men.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,870 posts)Looks good in leggings. If you are thin they look bad and if you are heavier they look bad.
That's just my opinion. I just don't like them except with long tops.
It has nothing to do with sex appeal.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts):p
malaise
(269,172 posts)Seriously
Firestorm49
(4,037 posts)I feel for her sons. Myself, I rather enjoy the look of an attractive woman in tight leggings.
Ligyron
(7,639 posts)Good thing her sons weren't going to U of Florida back in the mid 70's.
She'd have had a heart attack.
People tended to show up naked constantly at random places and times. Lakes on weekends surrounded with nude bodies lazing around in the Florida sun. Mass skinny dipping and everybody behaving themselves.
You know, you don't see that much anymore.
Freddie
(9,275 posts)Even to work (pretty casual office) with a nice top. They seem like leggings but thicker material. Shes 32, Im not and will stick to jeans.
Socal31
(2,484 posts)I hope she doesn't check her son's or husband's internet browser history.