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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 03:14 PM Mar 2019

As an American, I would have never followed the rules like Mueller did.

I would have sent a copy of the report to Barr AND to the judicial committees in both the House and Senate. I would have never trusted Barr to do the right thing because he made his views public.

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leftieNanner

(15,124 posts)
1. Agree
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 03:15 PM
Mar 2019

Do you think Barr has the ONLY copy?

I know this is all speculation at this point, but I can't imagine that there isn't another. Even if it's just electronic from the word processor.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
2. I think for a lot of professionals, work ethics
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 03:21 PM
Mar 2019

trumps being an American. There is always unintended consequences so just because we think that he should have just released the report to others doesn’t mean it would play the way you think. He would have been immidiately indicted facing criminal charges and lengthy prison sentences losing even more credibility. His investigation was extremely limited in scope. Anything uncovered beyond the scope his investigation was referred to prosecutors.

Prime example - Snoweden. He thought he was being an American. Result - complete loss of credibility and he is now viewed as an enemy of the state.

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
4. In the end Mueller is a RepubliCON
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 03:25 PM
Mar 2019

He will do what his RepubliCON bosses tell him to do....even if they are protecting a criminal.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
14. And is Andrew Weissman a Repub too?
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 05:41 PM
Mar 2019

There are a whole bunch of folks from Mueller's team that know exactly what is in the report (and what all the evidence is). And they're not all tools of the GOP.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
5. But it was Comey's free-lancing -- ignoring the stated policy -- that brought us to this point.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 03:25 PM
Mar 2019

Mueller was military before he was a top FBI guy. If anyone would be a rule-follower, it would be Mueller. Comey was the exception, not Mueller.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
12. I honestly think the Russians hacking and propaganda campaign was a much bigger factor
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 04:46 PM
Mar 2019

Along with Parscale's 'magically' coming up with Dem's polling data and discovering Trump had a chance in MI, WI, PA with a couple weeks left, and taking the actions needed ... unlike Hillary, sad to say.

What Comey did there was wrong, but I understand the logic.

Fact is, the media COMPLETELY blew it out of proportion and misrepresented what was going on. Kinda like they're doing now with this 'no collusion' BULLSHIT.

But I don't think that's main reason Hillary lost. I think Bernie voters staying home, or voting for Stein, thanks to Guccifer and Cambridge and Wikileaks, making it look like Hill & the Dems cheated Bernie ... is much more what f***ed us.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
6. I would have sent a copy to every major news outlet in the country just to see who would publish it.
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 03:26 PM
Mar 2019

DC needs to stop hiding behind bullshit intelligence sensitivity in matters of utmost public interest like this report.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
7. I still think this could work out very well for Mueller and the Democrats
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 03:40 PM
Mar 2019

Mueller has gone by the rules - impeccably. To date, I haven't found real substance for fault (ignoring the GOP noise).

Barr (Trump) hasn't gone by the rules. That letter got into stuff that was not his call. He stomped all over Mueller's work on an issue Mueller did not agree with him on: obstruction.




It is Congress who must evaluate and make the call.

Just like the question "why did so many of them lie?" will be "why did Barr try to short circuit Mueller and cut the legs out from his report?" The answers are obvious to many.

Actions speak louder than words.




Barr has to answer for his actions in front of the whole world.

And then Mueller will fill us in with the facts ... which I strongly suspect will be accepted as far more credible.

I think it is all downhill for Barr and Trump ... a report that does not exonerate Trump and will have plenty of facts on why they looked so long and hard at collusion is not going to help Trump.

erronis

(15,303 posts)
8. I agree. And I think we (the American people) will get a much more inclusive/clearer
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 03:49 PM
Mar 2019

reporting than will be submitted via Barr's redacted report. And Barr/dump will need to explain the discrepancies - in public.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
10. While I appreciate he is a straight shooter - sometimes you do need to bend the rules in the name
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 03:57 PM
Mar 2019

of good FOR FUCKS SAKE. It's not like the soul/brain of the country is at stake or anything.

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