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More than 80% of the people killed in a vicious EF4 tornado in southeast Alabama on March 3 were in manufactured homes, long recognized as very dangerous places to ride out a twister. Yet some of these structures might allow people to survive weaker tornadoes if they incorporate a simple safety measureone thats mandated by law but was found to be absent or insufficient in every home where a fatality occurred in the March 3 event.
Anchoring is critical, according to engineers who analyzed the damage from the Alabama tornado. When a mobile or manufactured home is solidly anchored to a concrete foundation or to the ground, a strong tornado is less likely to demolish it by flinging and tossing the entire structure. A well-anchored home could still suffer severe damage, but it may give the occupant a better chance of surviving the tornado.
An analysis led by engineer David Roueche (Auburn University) found that 19 of the 23 deaths on March 3all of them in Lee County, Alabamawere associated with manufactured homes, as opposed to site-built homes. All of these homes either lacked ground anchors entirely, had degraded anchors, or had anchorage systems that did not appear to meet state code, according to a March 27 report issued by the Auburn-led Structural Extreme Event Reconnaissance Network.
Of the other four deaths, three occurred in a destroyed modular home that was resting on unreinforced masonry block with no evidence of positive anchorage to resist uplift, according to the report.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Anchors cost money.
malaise
(269,054 posts)did not appear to meet state code
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)But taxes are low in those states.
There might be many houses in the states that do not meet codes.
Red Mountain
(1,735 posts)Fear of being sued can be a strong motivator to do what's right.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)But GOP states hate big government.
SWBTATTReg
(22,133 posts)and most states require a certain minimum number of tie downs (4) minimum.
When I last ran a mobile home park we required a minimum of 4 tie downs per MH (mobile home), but always went with 8 tie downs on our particular MHs (those not owned by us would do the minimum number plus). You definitely can tell the difference between 4 and 8 tie downs. W/ 4 tie downs, you can hear vibrations still and feel people, washer/dryer/AC going when you walk through the MH. With 8, no noise or very little noise/vibration is heard.
The tie downs were (then, late 70s-80s) were $40 each. A small piece really to pay considering that the tie downs reduce noise, reduce vibrations especially if you're running a washer/dryer, etc. Usually these tie downs are a band of metal that goes through the metal structure of the MH and then on both sides, are looped into the 'anchors' which are screwed into the ground underneath the MH.
This is a one time cost too, and I don't really understand why the reluctance...when someone moves into a new place (MH park), the MH is either brand new, and thus, needs tie downs put in, or the tie downs are older (already there) and should have been checked by the new owners prior to buying the used MH.
Sometimes MHs are brought in the second hand market where someone brought them for a son or daughter, something like that, and simply just parked the MH there on their property (no tie downs). Irresponsible.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And if the area has a code inspector, that inspector should be actually inspecting.
SWBTATTReg
(22,133 posts)mobile home inspector or the like in all of the years I've deal w/ MHs (I'm in MO). Maybe in some places where modular homes are more prevalent, e.g., FL or CA? I know most MH parks have an 'inspector' too, to ensure that all MHs are anchored correctly, are sided properly, wired and plumbed correctly too, but outside of these parks? I kind of doubt it.
Maybe a bank or something like that sending out an inspector, but banks usually don't deal w/ mobile homes or their financing (they avoided it, avoided the insurance too (because MHs are 'mobile'). We always had to go to the 2nd hand market to get.). More than likely, an insurance company would inspect, but most of these people living in these MHs are already strapped for money, so more than likely, won't even have insurance (if MH is used). They would have insurance if brought new (part of financing / loan process in buying).
Again, very good thought, but as to reality? Other than the fact of trying to keep up w/ locations of these MHs for tax records and so forth, and then perhaps send out inspectors to inspect, I wouldn't really know how such an inspection process would work. Such a program as you suggest would definitely cut down the number of death by fire etc. in these structures.
hunter
(38,317 posts)The cost of eight anchors, even self-installed, is not trivial to someone living on the edge.
Someone who is disabled and has no tools handy isn't going to be doing this:
Our society isolates people who need this kind of work from people who can do the work and know it needs to be done.
randr
(12,412 posts)will probably be the first to sue the County inspectors.
Count on it
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)Most OSHA and building codes are the result of blood and injury, yet people still try their best to get around them.
Brainstormy
(2,380 posts)Either way, you lose the trailer.
malaise
(269,054 posts)lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)If the homes didn't comply with the code they won't get anything from their insurance cos.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)A tornado will tear them up. They are lightweight and anchoring them only provides some safety.
The best advice: Get out!
EX500rider
(10,849 posts)Pre '76 there were no regs, after that HUD enacted some, and post '92, Fla anyway requires MH's to withstand 100mph winds.
Still not a place to be in a tornado of course.
Mariana
(14,858 posts)What it won't do, if they're anchored properly, is pick the entire things up and throw them around.
malaise
(269,054 posts)Long time no see - I agree get out but you don't have to die if they are anchored
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)I save up my energy for arguing with other people mostly.
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)to get VA/FHA financing, they have to be on a pad and have to have anchors every so many feet (can't remember exact number). Of course, we don't get a lot of tornadoes in Oregon. Still, the newer one's are better built and can be anchored well if you care about safety.
spinbaby
(15,090 posts)I remember some years ago, a southern state voting down this requirement because it would cost too much.
malaise
(269,054 posts)I am always amazed that people vote against their own interests
Crunchy Frog
(26,587 posts)Death is preferable.
malaise
(269,054 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,133 posts)There are some tornadoes that no MH can withstand, and I would say the category 4 in Alabama, the MHs would have a very hard time surviving such winds. Why shelters are so important (or a major building nearby, such as a laundry, would suffice as a shelter too (if built to code, concrete blocks, etc.)).