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Who is willing to leak the unredacted report to Nadler.
IcyPeas
(21,884 posts)there had to be a few printouts of this thing. like, who actually typed it up? Mueller's word processing department? proofreaders? researchers?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,720 posts)and narrowly escaped that fate due to government misconduct.
I felt that as an American citizen, as a responsible citizen, I could no longer cooperate in concealing this information from the American public. I did this clearly at my own jeopardy and I am prepared to answer to all the consequences of this decision.
He and Russo faced charges under the Espionage Act of 1917 and other charges including theft and conspiracy, carrying a total maximum sentence of 115 years for Ellsberg, 35 years for Russo. Their trial commenced in Los Angeles on January 3, 1973, presided over by U.S. District Judge William Matthew Byrne Jr. Ellsberg tried to claim that the documents were illegally classified to keep them not from an enemy but from the American public. However, that argument was ruled "irrelevant". Ellsberg was silenced before he could begin. Ellsberg said, in 2014, that his "lawyer, exasperated, said he 'had never heard of a case where a defendant was not permitted to tell the jury why he did what he did.' The judge responded: 'Well, you're hearing one now'. And so it has been with every subsequent whistleblower under indictment."
In spite of being effectively denied a defense, Ellsberg began to see events turn in his favor when the break-in of Fielding's office was revealed to Judge Byrne in a memo on April 26; Byrne ordered it to be shared with the defense.
On May 9, further evidence of illegal wiretapping against Ellsberg was revealed in court. The FBI had recorded numerous conversations between Morton Halperin and Ellsberg without a court order, and furthermore the prosecution had failed to share this evidence with the defense. During the trial, Byrne also revealed that he personally met twice with John Ehrlichman, who offered him directorship of the FBI. Byrne said he refused to consider the offer while the Ellsberg case was pending, though he was criticized for even agreeing to meet with Ehrlichman during the case.
Due to the gross governmental misconduct and illegal evidence gathering, and the defense by Leonard Boudin and Harvard Law School professor Charles Nesson, Judge Byrne dismissed all charges against Ellsberg and Russo on May 11, 1973 after the government claimed it had lost records of wiretapping against Ellsberg. Byrne ruled: "The totality of the circumstances of this case which I have only briefly sketched offend a sense of justice. The bizarre events have incurably infected the prosecution of this case."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ellsberg
Is there another Ellsberg out there somewhere?
unblock
(52,243 posts)I would be sooooo pissed if they got away with it due to "prosecutorial misconduct" or some evidence being ruled inadmissible because proper procedures weren't followed.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)And that helped.
unblock
(52,243 posts)It was basically all just evidence. Ellsberg leaking it got him in legal trouble, but it didn't harm any case against anyone because it merely made the evidence public.
It different when a leak happens from a prosecutor's office. If grand jury details get leaked, etc., that's the sort of thing that gets judges to dismiss all charges.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)other than the obvious people who did get indicted.
Supposedly, Mueller's report is chock full of evidence. Yet, perhaps some of that evidence is related to grand jury proceedings?
ancianita
(36,060 posts)Mme. Defarge
(8,033 posts)2naSalit
(86,643 posts)we can comfortably call it whistleblowing.
BigmanPigman
(51,608 posts)They did come forward a little bit. At least we know that the Barr Report is BS from the leakers. We will get more I believe. Give it a few more weeks.
ancianita
(36,060 posts)Then Barr wouldn't be torn to shreds by the rethugs and Trump's media shield.
Just sayin'.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)After Nadler subpoena's Barr for the report & the courts have their say, impeachment will be the final way to obtain it.
nini
(16,672 posts)We're still waiting for one of them to stand up for what's right.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)and rw radio offers the best opportunity to hit republicans where it counts
there are way too many accounts of intel, fbi, and jd personnel influenced/intimidated by 'public opinion' coming out of limbaugh's ass. same with the repub reps and trump admin - it's all talk radio buzz that fox puts a visual icing on
when dems start protesting and boycotting rw radio stations that every GOP politician needs to win they'll freak out and lose their big invisible advantage as advertisers head for the hills
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)unfortunate" he said. That sure sounds like it could happen. Mueller SHOULD take that patriotic move.
FakeNoose
(32,641 posts)... sooner or later. He's showing Chump what good loyal dog he is.
Somebody else will be doing the leaking, not him.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)We need the Barr report released (with redactions) first. Otherwise he could alter his version to make him not look so bad. Things need to happen in a chronological order.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)How many thumb drives Mueller distributed?