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Smackdown2019

(1,188 posts)
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 07:20 AM Apr 2019

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Ok, barr got his report from Mueller. Big deal right...

Where does it say Congress could NOT get Mueller copy?

My understanding, Mueller fulfill his obligation, what is to stop Mueller from just handing over the report directly to Congress?

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I believe, by law, Special Counsel gives it to Attny Gen Raven123 Apr 2019 #1
True, but Smackdown2019 Apr 2019 #3
By regulation Raven123 Apr 2019 #6
Do you not think they're being careful? maxsolomon Apr 2019 #7
The problem is Barr knows what's in the report and we don't Raven123 Apr 2019 #8
Our leaders in Congress knew this report would come out. dubyadiprecession Apr 2019 #2
Congress expired the Ethics in Government act in 1999 tymorial Apr 2019 #4
Rachel brought that up last night, that Barr suggested it. OnDoutside Apr 2019 #5

Raven123

(4,844 posts)
1. I believe, by law, Special Counsel gives it to Attny Gen
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 07:28 AM
Apr 2019

The Attny General can release it in its entirety. However, a lot of people worked on that investigation and can be called before Congress. Just a way to slow the release.

Dems need to be careful. Too much attention to this issue in the media to the exclusion of other campaign worthy issues like healthcare will only help Trump IMO

Smackdown2019

(1,188 posts)
3. True, but
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 07:36 AM
Apr 2019

True, but why not CC Congress with the same report he gave to Barr? Mueller fulfill his duties, if Congress ask, Mueller should hand it right over. What prevents Mueller from doing that is my question?

Raven123

(4,844 posts)
6. By regulation
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 01:46 PM
Apr 2019

Special Prosecutor is appointed by the Attorney General and reports to the Attorney General - NOT to Congress. That's how the reg was written I believe

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
7. Do you not think they're being careful?
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:24 PM
Apr 2019

Too much attention to the death of our Democratic Republic? How dry does the powder need to be?

Healthcare, while vitally important, is, to put it mildly, a policy snoozefest. Dems better come up with something more exciting than that. Trump will be full-on hysterical "we're under attack from MS13" mode.

America's low-information flibbergibbets won't give a flying fuck about a healthcare policy discussion. They want entertainment. They want a scandal. Give it to them.

But so far, our candidates are putting me to sleep. Maxine Water's petty sparring with Mnuchin puts me to sleep.

Raven123

(4,844 posts)
8. The problem is Barr knows what's in the report and we don't
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:46 PM
Apr 2019

We assume he's JUST covering for POTUS. while that likely is true in part, Barr may also be speaking some truth. If the incessant high profile pounding to publicize the contents of that report doesn't result in a reveal that convinces a significant number of the electorate of irrefutable evidence of criminal behavior (in THEIR opinion) Dems risk a backlash. They have to walk and chew gum. Keep up the pressure, BUT stay active on policy issues.

Issues like healthcare may seem boring, but notice how Trump jumped into it and then backed off. He wouldn't have done it if he wasn't worried about it in 2020 IMO.

dubyadiprecession

(5,711 posts)
2. Our leaders in Congress knew this report would come out.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 07:31 AM
Apr 2019

Why are they always surprised by every move the right makes??

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
4. Congress expired the Ethics in Government act in 1999
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 07:56 AM
Apr 2019

This in turn was replaced by special counsel which is called by the attorney general under DOJ regulation 28 CFR Part 600.

In effect special counsel works at the behest of the Department of Justice.

The real story here is the Republicans didn't want another Walsh and the Democrats didn't want another Ken Starr so the law was retired. I don't think anyone at the time ever considered we would be in a situation where the Attorney General would actively engage in collusion.

Here is the text.

(a)Original jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.

(b)Additional jurisdiction. If in the course of his or her investigation the Special Counsel concludes that additional jurisdiction beyond that specified in his or her original jurisdiction is necessary in order to fully investigate and resolve the matters assigned, or to investigate new matters that come to light in the course of his or her investigation, he or she shall consult with the Attorney General, who will determine whether to include the additional matters within the Special Counsel's jurisdiction or assign them elsewhere.

(c)Civil and administrative jurisdiction. If in the course of his or her investigation the Special Counsel determines that administrative remedies, civil sanctions or other governmental action outside the criminal justice system might be appropriate, he or she shall consult with the Attorney General with respect to the appropriate component to take any necessary action. A Special Counsel shall not have civil or administrative authority unless specifically granted such jurisdiction by the Attorney General.

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