if we don't stay on offense - and I include Mueller himself on this - we will soon find our backs against the wall.

Forces of evil (and Putin) are strong.

At some point the Dems including Pelosi are going to have to quit worrying about the politics, optics of "overreach," and stand for TRUTH!!!!

The math, the bipartisanship are never coming, Pelosi.

She is one of the Democrats who is standing up.

2000 and blame prominent dems for being spineless we're going to lose this

every day limbaugh and sons take free potshots from 1500 radio stations at dems who stick their necks out and we do nothing to get their backs - no protests, no boycotts - and then we blame them

it should be clear the cons are afraid of the rw media gods who have created this shit, who disinform the base and then use them to intimidate and enable. limbaugh has been laying out for 2 fucking years this script about the deep state and fisa bullshit and the left has done nothing and now they're using the same bullshit in hearings and half the country thinks it's true and the other half have no fucking clue where it came from

liberty will maintain its current fade-away. Grassroots action on a massive scale is required, yet the will isn’t there. Clicktivism won’t get it. Cyber rage blows over daily with each new abuse of power. I’m a marcher, a 70-year-old trooper, not a leader/organizer. We need charismatic leaders on the ground. There aren’t any stepping up. Perhaps we could find a 16-year-old, clear-spoken, courageous young warrior to lead us. The one who comes to mind is already engaged on another front. Rolling general strikes, rolling high school and college walkouts, I don’t know— rolling pan and pot banging at midnight. The point is— there’s no willingness.

protests don't work anymore because a few hundred shits on 1500 radio stations yell over them for as long as it takes for republicans to get over it - like iraq, like ows

if protests and activism gets legs the think tanks yawn, design a PR response that can include any lying they want, and spew it out of those radio stations as long as they need. like the 'deep state' bullshit the last 2 years from limbaugh. and unlike fox those stations can be locally coordinated. and they can say anything they want without being noticed by liberals/dems until it shows up coming out of trump or barr's mouth, for instance.

the most effective get-the-boulder-rolling place to protest is RW stations, or better yet, the 88 universities that support 260 limbaugh stations - they're everywhere and the GOP and their think tanks who depend on those stations will freak out. that will get media attention and scare away most of the advertisers left and force the ad industry to force many radio stations to drop limbaugh/hannity/levin/savage - rw radio - they want those loud stations and the huge audiences.

Republicans are so deep in the hole that their only way out is a strong offensive. The more they try to take the moral high ground, insulting every agency that they view as negative to their cause, the more I am certain that the Mueller report will leak.

Essential they know people are standing strong behind them. Telephone calls important

They need to take measured steps because of the pincer movement of the coup masters and enablers (Trumpians and Influencers/media) When Bad Actors and media act in concert there is always a danger that the forces of good get obliterated before we realize and can act upon our strength.

The Influencers/media did fail to stop the will of the people to see the Mueller Report--even though they had almost totally led with the Trumpian Talking Points about no collusion and exoneration).

We have a beachhead but the war is far from over.

Well put...Democratic politicians need to get off their asses and stop talking, action is of extreme importance at this time. No more threats, do it!

only in ameriKa.

....and is oh so applicable to this situation: “the only thing required for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing” They must stand up and fight back with everything they’ve got and cannot let him destroy America. And we must lend our voices and do the same and stand with them.

Hitler would be laughing in his grave.

hitler is laughing in the White House.

The baby would be cut in half.

Just that would be enough to at least get some legitimacy behind the concept of investigations.

That is the amazing part....there are 50 investigations going on yet Trump and his kids are literally untouchable. If it was anybody else they would already be bringing up charges.

But, I must say, without a few thousand people hitting the streets to protest this madness, the GOP will keep on keeping on and the trump coup will succeed.

Otherwise, why are you in a leadership position?

As Americans, we are vulnerable to a criminal tyrant, and we need protection. If people in leadership do not provide protection, then they need to be replaced.

the US government permanently.

They've been working on it since Nixon, but the dems seem clueless. I feel like only a few of them are just now waking up to the threat that is the Republican Party.

The only way they could win was with the help of foreign adversaries (of democracy).

I asked my rwnj cousin what the point of a national defense budget was if we didn't take care of our citizens. He railed against socialism. I asked why are bailouts & subsidies for the corporations not considered socialism? Crickets.

The GOP used to believe they could achieve a majority of support. All the way through Newt, they really thought they could. Even with Bush II, Rove thought they could create the "permanent republican majority". They failed. And they know it. But what they ALSO figured out was that they could achieve governing control through gerrymandering and the fact that the senate is controlled by a minority of the population. And they are using this time to cram the courts with their ultraconservative justices.

There is little hope for us in the long term. The constitutions fatal flaw is the Senate representation, which affects the EC as well. It is also the power to approve justices to the bench. Right now 50% of the population lives in just 8 states. By 2040 70% will live in just 15 states. A country cannot long survive being governed by an extreme minority. Add to that the oversized influence of the 10 20% of the household incomes, and it is an unavoidable recipe for revolution.

I agree. You’re right. This has no chance of ending well without a lot of pain.

that Rove, the human pig, (no offense to actual pigs) talked about wasn't a majority of the people. It was a majority of government offices by any means necessary. Rule of the minority OVER the majority. The only way that fascism ever succeeds. They NEVER thought they could legitimately get majority consensus. Their only goal was to seize control. They're almost there.

The House will always be a problem for them, too many states that can't be particularly gerrymandered. But they'll always have the upper hand there, as long as they maintain control of state legislatures.

For me, fascism has always been defined as basically a minority believing that they have a "right to rule". When white people were the majority, it was hard to argue about their "right to rule". One could only make the argument that those "rules" had to conform to the Bill of Rights and civil rights in general. But now, with white people, especially white men becoming a minority, their assertion that they should be governing is basically an assertion of fascism.

I think it was Stephen Colbert who used to use this to represent Rove.

Thank you.

There are solutions that could help to mitigate this problem, such as statehood for Puerto Rico and DC. David Faris wrote a book laying out other possibilities. But the truth is, we will probably never get there. There's not enough time, and the fatal flaws in our Constitution are exactly what is preventing us from fixing it. Ultimately, as power-mad Republicans clamp down harder and harder on any opposition in an effort to maintain and enforce minority rule over the majority, the federal system will collapse and something else will rise in its place.

I've only recently begun to realize just how fatally flawed our constitution is. For all the "good" that was created, they made one or two very serious mistakes. They contributed to our civil war. I'm afraid they will cause the next one.

"...something else will rise in its place"

Under the current global system, I fear what that will be.

Both the Dems and the IC must take off the gloves to protect the Constitution.

If Trump and Barr intend to actually prosecute people for doing their jobs, then it’s war- leaks, impeachment, whatever it takes to beat back this assault on the Rule of Law.

but at this point, Trump needs to be removed. You can't do that without Republicans. And unfortunately, we already know what they are made of.

The POINT is to release all the evidence to the people. NOW.

Filing articles of impeachment is the fastest and most sure way to secure ALL of the evidence, now.

Waiting allows Trump's minions to run with a false narrative, to tear down the very rule of law and drive us into a place I don't think you want to go.

When the people are not blinded by the result of our timidity and allowed to know the truth, critical mass will propel defense of justice.

And that will accelerate removal.

... but I don't know if Mueller is ready to work with Democratic leaders. I hope he can see that the Dems are his only hope but maybe he still thinks the GOP will act to save itself. The showdown will happen soon, before the 2020 election I'm sure of it.

even if it means exiling them to their own country. Then I want a goddamned wall all the way along that new frontier!

important rules and regulations for the greater goods of truth and justice. I'd write him a letter sweetly telling him so if I knew his address.

Today I saw through the door into the abyss when Barr spoke of the inquiry into the investigation. They have running room and time to sow more chaos.

While we wait for math.

While we wait for bipartisanship.

(that's never going to come)

sex assault is no big deal, genuflecting to Russia is just fine and back slapping with murderous Saudis doesn't arouse them I wonder what on earth will.

Right wing jihadist radicals must be stopped. We are the only ones who can stop them.

This exactly!

.....why Mueller passed on seeing Barr's summary before it was given to Congress? He said no---didn't want to see it. Why?

Wasn't that ceding the frame?

I really don't understand why he wouldn't at least put it on the record that he felt the summary was a misrepresentation of the findings.

First they do this. Then we do that. Then they do that. Then we read it. Then we file suboena. Then court rules. The ruling is appealed. Then appellate ruling is appealed. Then S.Ct. makes the final decision.

This is the way the ruler of our country, the law, dictates. Everything's going according to plan.

The hearings are occurring. Are you not watching? Barr this week. Mueller to follow.

Read up before getting upset over imagined non-action. There's plenty of action going on. According to plan.

They know what they're doing.

they can subpoena the Mueller report and if Barr interfered they could say he has a conflict of interest.

I say impeach the mother fucker.

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Future generations will ask,why didn’t anyone do anything,why.

Just saying.

is over!

I hate this spoiled rich guy's administration as much as anyone, but if you remove him, you are opening the gate for a theocracy unparalleled in modern history. Pence is way worse than the orange one... he will put us back into the Stone Age if allowed. We must remove that rich bastard but we must remove them ALL... otherwise, we are just trading one horror for an even bigger one...

Am I too cynical?

Obama a SCOTUS pick. McConnell knew Trump would be elected, knew who Trump is, knew there was a pathway through this with the help of institutionalists who wouldn't embrace the chaos that would come with the truth.

When you have Fox, the power of the presidency and the senate, a rash of new loyal judges, many of the world's oligarchs, a willingness to lie, and a press owned by the world's largest corporations....this is what it looks like.

Mueller may not be a Trump loyalist but he plays by the rules others have made and may very well think the decision to upend everything should be left to politicians, not one man.