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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOkay, so assuming Obama wins and Congress stays the same...
...will the debt limit be raised? Will the government get shut down for six months or a year?
The only reason the debt limit was raised last time was that is was sold to the Teaocrats as a necessary step to getting Obama out of office. The need to play ball in order to get Obama out has been what has been keeping a lot of these loons in the general vicinity of planet Earth.
If Obama wins they will rebel against their own party leadership. Boehnner will be replaced by Cantor, and the first time Cantor does anything halfway responsible he will be deposed in turn. Rand Paul will filibuster the debt ceiling.
I think they may well commit Party suicide.
And I believe that a fair amount of Romney's support from pragmatic big business is mindful of that... that "mainstream" Republicanism has become a protection racket. Romney can argue, behind closed doors, of course, that only he can insure that "the spice will flow" (a Dune reference)... that with a Republican president the RW can be co-opted into business as usual (in the way they supported Bush's massive deficit spending and stimulus programs)
villager
(26,001 posts)11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)villager
(26,001 posts)pinto
(106,886 posts)and Obama's second term and the growing vocal complaints from the public may mean a different ball of wax for the next Congress.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)The public can declaim gridlock all day long, but as long as they perceive it as being caused by the 434 Representatives and 98 Senators that somebody else elects they will act the same as always. (More and more pissed off, but returning their popular local officials to Washington with regularity.)
pinto
(106,886 posts)I support casting a vote, actively campaigning for the most progressive Dem in any and all local / state races. Also realize there are some tactical political concerns, at times. Our part, imo, is being involved in the whole process, not just the election day appearance.
Not always easy for folks who have to juggle jobs, family responsibilities etc. But we all can play some part as we're able.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)to reach a budget compromise. And that's not necessarily a good thing.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Republicans come together when they have to. At best we would get two years of gridlock, then the Republicans would probably gain seats in the mid-terms. Then, the historical precedence is that the Republicans would take back the White House (and more Congressional seats) in 2016, meaning that not only would we not have a paddle, we wouldn't even have a freakin' canoe on our journey down the Unsanitary Tributary.