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Surprise: FBI, DHS say all 50 states had election systems targeted in 2016. (Original Post) triron Apr 2019 OP
The article said voter data was targeted. It does not say any election results were changed. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #1
Yeah the Russkies just got in for the fun of it. triron Apr 2019 #13
Purging voter rolls is at least as dangerous as changing votes. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #15
Both happened. triron Apr 2019 #21
Which states' votes were changed? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #24
Which ones were close? triron Apr 2019 #28
How close is "close"? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #29
Yep. Hacked into the systems and left it at that. Just to prove they could. Just to show off. Amaryllis Apr 2019 #19
First they tell us only 21 states, then they say 39 - now all 50. FM123 Apr 2019 #2
All fifty states were targeted, 21-39 were breached to some degree Brother Buzz Apr 2019 #6
I've believed this cilla4progress Apr 2019 #3
+1 Chin music Apr 2019 #4
I thought so, too. nt WhiskeyWulf Apr 2019 #7
Yes please reference this research by Ron Baiman, Ph. D. triron Apr 2019 #14
SAme here. ANd way too targeted and specific. Three states. Amaryllis Apr 2019 #20
Vote on paper akraven Apr 2019 #5
targeted by republicans nt msongs Apr 2019 #8
I didnt see where it said the vote tallies were changed Eko Apr 2019 #9
I missed that too. Nt hughee99 Apr 2019 #10
It doesn't say that. But what it says is concerning enough. n/t pnwmom Apr 2019 #23
NOT VOTE TALLIES! Micro purges of voter rolls, easier & harder to detect with no provisional exit uponit7771 Apr 2019 #11
Yes maybe that as well. triron Apr 2019 #16
As an American citizen I DEMAND that our elections be fair!!! backtoblue Apr 2019 #12
We Have a Fake President dlk Apr 2019 #17
I'm sure Barr will claim this is a big FBI conspiracy. nt yaesu Apr 2019 #18
IF we didn't vote him in, and its a Farce.... yuiyoshida Apr 2019 #22
I'm very skeptical as how they're framing this. It would be a nightmare if votes were flipped. YOHABLO Apr 2019 #25
He's fake anyway - the people elected Hillary, but the college gave it to Drumpf Blues Heron Apr 2019 #27
this is why I'm fairly sure the whole truth will never come out anarch Apr 2019 #30
Need to see this zentrum Apr 2019 #26

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,702 posts)
29. How close is "close"?
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 10:49 PM
Apr 2019

Which specific states' votes were actually, not just speculatively, changed, and what's the evidence?

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
19. Yep. Hacked into the systems and left it at that. Just to prove they could. Just to show off.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 09:13 PM
Apr 2019

No damage done. NOthing to see here.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
2. First they tell us only 21 states, then they say 39 - now all 50.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 07:15 PM
Apr 2019

We can only imagine what we will find out later, as opposed to the "election’s integrity was not compromised" statement they started with....

cilla4progress

(24,733 posts)
3. I've believed this
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 07:20 PM
Apr 2019

from the beginning (vote tallies changed).

The ratios were WAY too close and coincidental.

akraven

(1,975 posts)
5. Vote on paper
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 07:30 PM
Apr 2019

and make a copy WITH your signature on it. I've done this for close to 20 years. And I keep them all in a file. City, borough, state and national.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
11. NOT VOTE TALLIES! Micro purges of voter rolls, easier & harder to detect with no provisional exit
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 08:20 PM
Apr 2019

... polling

backtoblue

(11,343 posts)
12. As an American citizen I DEMAND that our elections be fair!!!
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 08:31 PM
Apr 2019

That's the bottom-line protection of our Constitution. Majority rule is at stake. Elections is the only peaceful manor to which the PEOPLE have any input in governance. Protect our elections NOW!!!!
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yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
22. IF we didn't vote him in, and its a Farce....
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 09:28 PM
Apr 2019

Shouldn't he be disqualified for the job? The Republican party won't boot him out... they just hold their collective noses and hope he makes them all stinkin rich. バカ野郎。

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
25. I'm very skeptical as how they're framing this. It would be a nightmare if votes were flipped.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 09:48 PM
Apr 2019

A National emergency no less. It would mean we have a fake President.

Blues Heron

(5,936 posts)
27. He's fake anyway - the people elected Hillary, but the college gave it to Drumpf
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 10:29 PM
Apr 2019

all votes must be counted and counted equally.

This new info is very concerning.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
30. this is why I'm fairly sure the whole truth will never come out
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 06:25 AM
Apr 2019

at least not until long after we're all dead and gone...let's say there was strong and compelling evidence that votes were flipped in some key districts in some states, along with the general social media campaigns and voter roll manipulation that we know about for sure, but you can't really quite prove it, and anyway if people knew how completely this key, critical aspect of their supposed democratic republic had been corrupted, the only conclusion one could come to is that the whole country is a fucking joke at this point, and our entire system of governance has been upended by a much more clever adversary, who saw the fault lines in our society and expertly struck at them, setting us up for decades of being so divided that we can't possibly make any collective progress, and our global influence is tremendously weakened.

I don't know. I think it's a lot worse than anyone who knows more of the details than we do will ever let on, because they don't want society to fall apart completely.

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