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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:35 PM Apr 2019

Trump to Give Tiger Woods Presidential Medal of Freedom

Another instance of dt cheapening something. Because Woods won a golf game?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-to-give-tiger-woods-presidential-medal-of-freedom?ref=home

Trump to Give Tiger Woods Presidential Medal of Freedom
Andrew Innerarity/Reuters

President Trump announced Monday that he plans to award Tiger Woods the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the country’s highest civilian honor, just a day after the golf legend broke his nearly 11-year dry spell to win the Masters. “Spoke to @TigerWoods to congratulate him on the great victory he had in yesterday’s @TheMasters, & to inform him that because of his incredible Success & Comeback in Sports (Golf) and, more importantly, LIFE, I will be presenting him with the PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF FREEDOM!” Trump tweeted. After more than a decade of tumultuous medical and personal problems that took him out of golf’s top 50 ranked players, Woods won his 15th major tournament on Sunday afternoon.


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Trump to Give Tiger Woods Presidential Medal of Freedom (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2019 OP
For Playing Golf? Me. Apr 2019 #1
Don't be silly... lame54 Apr 2019 #25
Well, this certainly will put Tiger's integrity to the test, because if he has an ounce of it ... mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #2
Yes, others have got it for golf. Many for sports. former9thward Apr 2019 #16
I didn't say no golfers had ... I said they didn't get it handed them the day after they won some mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #19
The fact that Trump is awarding the medal renders it meaningless. n/t mtnsnake Apr 2019 #3
Yes, exactly. nt babylonsister Apr 2019 #6
Yup. jayfish Apr 2019 #4
Pretty sure most if not all of these were given long after their retirement and in some cases mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #7
Oh, I Didn't Know... jayfish Apr 2019 #10
Tom Hanks. Ellen DeGeneres. Bruce Springsteen onenote Apr 2019 #15
Nobody on that list is an athlete though are they? mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #18
Why would it make a difference. I'm curious. onenote Apr 2019 #20
Cause musicians and actors very often don't retire until they're very old? mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #21
Because Tiger plays golf with him and lets him get away with cheating. smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #5
Dick Cheney got one from bush senior... cynatnite Apr 2019 #8
Well, he already cheapened it by giving it to Miriam Adelson, Urine Hatch and some dead people. GoCubsGo Apr 2019 #9
He can give one to Bobby Kraft too. RhodeIslandOne Apr 2019 #11
Pretty sure this text "sealed the deal" with Traitor don Va Lefty Apr 2019 #12
A series of posts demonstrating a lack of knowledge about the Medal of Freedom onenote Apr 2019 #13
Arnold just played golf? Roland99 Apr 2019 #22
The TGR Foundation onenote Apr 2019 #24
Nicklaus Roland99 Apr 2019 #23
Trump probably admires Tiger because Tiger's a bigger satyr than he is Poiuyt Apr 2019 #14
He doesn't deserve a Medal of Freedom just because he is good at hitting a ball into a hole. DesertRat Apr 2019 #17
they have the same taste in women and similar attitudes towards fidelity. TeamPooka Apr 2019 #26
He gives these awards to people he's heard of. So Babe Ruth got one but George Washington didn't struggle4progress Apr 2019 #27
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. Well, this certainly will put Tiger's integrity to the test, because if he has an ounce of it ...
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:43 PM
Apr 2019

He's will decline to accept this Award.

Have any other Golfers, including the GOAT Nicklaus ... get Medals of Freedom ... just for winning A fucking golf tourney? I certainly don't believe so.

I applauded his win and was pulling for him, but if turns around and accepts this award, on these grounds, from this POtuS ... he will be dead to me.

former9thward

(32,017 posts)
16. Yes, others have got it for golf. Many for sports.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 06:28 PM
Apr 2019

Palmer and Nicholas got it from Bush. Charles Sifford got from Obama for golf. Many, many, other sports figures got it from presidents Kennedy thru Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidential_Medal_of_Freedom_recipients

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
19. I didn't say no golfers had ... I said they didn't get it handed them the day after they won some
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 10:43 PM
Apr 2019

single particular tournament.

It's pretty much always traditionally been something of a lifetime achievement awards with athletes, and it's always been given to them well after their heyday in their career was over.

If it was me, I wouldn't want to be basically the only athlete considered special enough to have rec'd this honor while I'm still in the thick of my career (even if obviously it's close to being over).

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
4. Yup.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:44 PM
Apr 2019
List of Presidential Medal of Freedom recipients

Robert J. H. Kiphuth1963 Swimming John F. Kennedy
Jesse Owens 1976 Track Gerald Ford
Joe DiMaggio 1977 Baseball Gerald Ford
Paul "Bear" Bryant 1983 Football Ronald Reagan
Jackie Robinson 1984 Baseball Ronald Reagan
Earl Blaik 1986 Football Ronald Reagan
Ted Williams 1991 Baseball George H. W. Bush
Richard Petty 1992 Auto racing George H. W. Bush
Arthur Ashe 1993 Tennis Bill Clinton
John Wooden 2003 Basketball George W. Bush
Roberto Clemente 2003 Baseball George W. Bush
Arnold Palmer 2004 Golf George W. Bush
Jack Nicklaus 2005 Golf George W. Bush
Muhammad Ali 2005 Boxing George W. Bush
Frank Robinson 2005 Baseball George W. Bush
Buck O'Neil 2006 Baseball George W. Bush
Billie Jean King 2009 Tennis Barack Obama
Bill Russell 2011 Basketball Barack Obama
Stan Musial 2011 Baseball Barack Obama
Pat Summitt 2012 Basketball Barack Obama
Dean Smith 2013 Basketball Barack Obama
Ernie Banks 2013 Baseball Barack Obama
Charles Sifford 2014 Golf Barack Obama
Yogi Berra 2015 Baseball Barack Obama
Willie Mays 2015 Baseball Barack Obama
Vin Scully 2016 Baseball Barack Obama
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 2016 Basketball Barack Obama
Michael Jordan 2016 Basketball Barack Obama
Babe Ruth 2018 Baseball Donald Trump
Roger Staubach 2018 Football Donald Trump
Alan Page 2018 Football Donald Trump
Tiger Woods 2019 Golf Donald Trump
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
7. Pretty sure most if not all of these were given long after their retirement and in some cases
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:49 PM
Apr 2019

Posthumously. Esp. the people that were athletes as opposed to coaches or announcers.

Giving one to an active professional athlete, at 43 y.o., a day after they won a tournament, even one as big as this win was for Tiger ... would be, I'm almost certain, a major break from 'how this sort of thing is normally done'.

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
10. Oh, I Didn't Know...
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:00 PM
Apr 2019

a time limit was mentioned somewhere in the OP. Just seemed like a shitpost about giving an award to Tiger Woods.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
15. Tom Hanks. Ellen DeGeneres. Bruce Springsteen
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 06:23 PM
Apr 2019

Oprah Winfrey. Lorne Michaels. James Taylor. Gloria Estefan. Meryl Streep.

I'm sure that these folks, as well as others, would be surprised to learn that they had retired long before they were awarded the Medal (or are dead).

The timing can be influenced by many things. President Obama announced that Yogi Berra would get the Medal not that long after Yogi died. Most of the time the Medal is not awarded posthumously.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
18. Nobody on that list is an athlete though are they?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 10:38 PM
Apr 2019

I'm saying it would very irregular in the case of an athlete while still at the top of their game to get this honor awarded them.

What, Tiger is the one and only professional athlete that's ever been worthy enough to receive one while still in the thick of their career?

If I'm him, I'm saying 'Thanks but no thanks ... Jack and Arnie got theirs YEARS after they retired ... '

It's also pathetic for Trump to try to glom onto Tiger's moment right now ... kinda sickening really. He just HAS to get some o' that sweet attention.

NOT saying Tiger doesn't (eventually) deserve the Medal, okay?

onenote

(42,714 posts)
20. Why would it make a difference. I'm curious.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:03 PM
Apr 2019

Why is it okay for a musician or actor in the thick of their career to be awarded the medal but not an athlete. There is zero logic to that. And no one thinks Tiger, despite his Masters win, thanks he's "at the top of their game."

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
21. Cause musicians and actors very often don't retire until they're very old?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:50 PM
Apr 2019

No other athlete got one that I see on the list while still totally within their professional career, and not as something that looks like a 'reward' handed out by POTUS the day after a big win. It's just not been done that way with athletes. This would be a highly irregular situation in which to give an athlete this award.

What, Tiger is so special, such a great American, that he's the only athlete who's deserved to get it while still competing professionally?

And I think he's cheapening the Medal by flinging it around under circumstances like this, IMHO.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
5. Because Tiger plays golf with him and lets him get away with cheating.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:45 PM
Apr 2019

Also, he kisses his fat orange ass.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
9. Well, he already cheapened it by giving it to Miriam Adelson, Urine Hatch and some dead people.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:59 PM
Apr 2019

It's pretty much rendered meaningless at this point, so whatevs.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
11. He can give one to Bobby Kraft too.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:02 PM
Apr 2019

Braving a massage parlor and throwing out your back for porn stars is the stuff Trump admires.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
13. A series of posts demonstrating a lack of knowledge about the Medal of Freedom
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 06:14 PM
Apr 2019

The presidential medal of freedom is awarded to recognize individuals who have made "an especially meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or private endeavors"

One of the posters above asks "for playing golf"? Well, it was awarded to Arnold Palmer and Jack Nicklaus, so I guess so.

President Obama awarded it to more sports figures than any of his predecessors, including Michael Jordan, Yogi Berra, Willie Mays, Stan Musial, among others. He also awarded it to entertainment figures (as did his predecessors) including Loretta Lynn.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
22. Arnold just played golf?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:51 PM
Apr 2019
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Palmer_Hospital_for_Children

The Bert Martin's Champions for Children Emergency Department & Trauma Center at Arnold Palmer Hospital is part of the only Level One Trauma Center in the area[a]

As of the 2016-2017 rankings, Arnold Palmer Hospital is nationally ranked as a “Best Children’s Hospital” by U.S. News & World Report in five pediatric specialties - cardiology & heart surgery, diabetes & endocrinology, gastroenterology & GI surgery, orthopedics and urology.[4]

Arnold Palmer Hospital for Children has affiliations with Camp Boggy Creek, Children’s Miracle Network, the Florida Association of Children’s Hospitals, Give Kids the World, the Make-A-Wish Foundation, the National Association of Children’s Hospitals and Related Institutions, and the Ronald McDonald House.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
23. Nicklaus
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:53 PM
Apr 2019

Jack and Barbara Nicklaus Donate $60-Million to Miami Hospital
https://www.philanthropy.com/article/JackBarbara-Nicklaus/151797

Additionally,

He established the Nicklaus Children’s Health Care Foundation in 2004 in an effort to provide families access to world-class pediatric healthcare.

Collaborating with pediatric hospitals across the country, the Foundation has grown from a vision to reality, supporting innovative programs focused on the diagnosis, treatment and prevention of childhood illness.



http://www.jackshousefoundation.org/about

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
17. He doesn't deserve a Medal of Freedom just because he is good at hitting a ball into a hole.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 06:56 PM
Apr 2019

The Presidential Medal of Freedom recognizes those people who have made "an especially meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or private endeavors."

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