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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRecall how we all thought Hillary was going to win?
And how that played a big role in Obama and Democratic Party leaders not coming forward with the campaign revelations about Trump and Russia?
If we again assume we are going to win in 2020 then we will lose again.
IMPEACH
marble falls
(57,097 posts)Bettie
(16,110 posts)Has the house received Agent Orange's tax returns? The full, unredacted Mueller report? Anything they've sent subpoenas for?
The process only works when both sides respect the laws behind the process.
marble falls
(57,097 posts)former9thward
(32,016 posts)Watergate break in occured in June, 1972. Nixon resigned in August, 1974. Two years and two months. Investigations of Trump started before election day in September, 2016. It is now April, 2019. Two years seven months.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)That's because our country is going down the tubes. We are so far down, impeachment is useless or even harmful. My assumption is only that we are not so far down the tubes that elections don't matter. If they don't matter then Trumpisn wins, even if we remove him from office.
triron
(22,006 posts)The Russians et al will go all out to help him and they will know we won't do anything about it.
Trump and the republicans will know that as well.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)I would like to see vigorous investigation of Russian help for Trump in 2016 as Mueller outlined, and framed as a way of preventing a repeat in 2020. That could lead to more awareness of what the Russians did and could increase support for impeachment without targetting Trump directly. It's the direct targetting of Trump that's a problem. He thrives by playing the victim, and he thrives even more when people really are out to get him. People are dumb and they fall for it. They shouldn't be, but they are. Read "What is Populism."
scrutineer
(1,156 posts)It will be the dirtiest, most obnoxious and perhaps violent ever. Steel yourselves. Republicans are not constrained by any sense that they must obey any laws.
Don't be naive - we ain't seen nothin' yet.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)triron
(22,006 posts)abqtommy
(14,118 posts)Hillary DID WIN! A corrupt political party and with help from others turned their certain defeat into "victory". THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO IMPEACH THE SUNNY BEACH!