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srobertss

(261 posts)
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 02:48 PM Apr 2019

Why Barr Did It

Why did he sacrifice his reputation for Trump? Because he had one audience: the Fox News audience (which includes Trump, of course). And it worked. He got the narrative out there that all of Trumps bad behavior was because he was a victim of Democratic harassment. They know that Trumps protection from impeachment is maintaining that base that everyone is so afraid of, Republicans and Democrats alike. He's probably feeling like a martyr right now.

I think Sarah Huckabee Sanders is feeling like a martyr too. She lied and then told the truth to keep out of legal jeopardy and then went right back to lying again and insulting Democrats as robots. Just to protect her master.

And Lyndsey Graham and Mitch McConnell know that the path to their hellish vision of America is through Trump now. There's no turning back.

I suspect Trump gets off on forcing his version of reality on 40% of the country. It must make him feel powerful to see his lies get swallowed.

And theyre all serving the 1% who want everyone to be slaves to their unfettered ability to accumulate wealth.

I had no idea human beings could be like this. I guess I really didn't comprehend authoritarianism until now. It's quite a fragrant picture.

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. What I find interesting is that Barr left a lot in the redacted report that clearly indicates his
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 02:53 PM
Apr 2019

interpretation is BS. If you are going to flat out lie, why not redact the stuff that makes it easy for anyone who cares to recognize the lies.

I'm sure he didn't redact more because he knew the report would eventually be released pretty much in its entirty. But still, why lie in Barr's interpretation, then release records that prove you lied?

These f&%#ers are incompetent at all levels.

srobertss

(261 posts)
4. Because he knew the contradictions wouldn't matter
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 03:01 PM
Apr 2019

to his Fox audience? And I don’t think they even know there are contradictions. As you say, the truth would have gotten out and they must have been calculating that.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
3. That still doesn't really answer the question.
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 03:01 PM
Apr 2019

Barr didn't need the job. He'd been the AG before, he had stellar professional credentials and he was making big bucks in private law practice. He's 67 years old, and he could easily have retired and spent the rest of his life in financial comfort while resting on his professional laurels. He had to have known that many previously well-regarded people had left the Trump administration with their reputations in shreds after being thrown under one of Trump's buses, but he actually auditioned for the job by sending the WH an unsolicited letter outlining his rather extreme opinions relating to presidential power. But now it looks like Barr's reputation, too, is swirling down the toilet because he so blatantly toadied up to Trump and lied on his behalf about the contents and import of the Mueller report.

He's being accused by many - not just Democrats - of violating his duty as AG in order to protect Trump by acting as his personal lawyer. It was not necessary for him to do what he did or make the statements he made. He could have released the report with little or no comment. He didn't have to release a "summary" that mischaracterized the report, or hold a pre-release press conference to claim falsely that the report exonerated Trump. Obviously that's what Trump wanted him to do, but why did he do it? Is he that fanatical about his theory of the unitary executive? Is he so arrogant that he thought he could get away with being an obvious shill for Trump and nobody would notice? I still don't get it.

srobertss

(261 posts)
5. Because he's a true believer?
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 03:05 PM
Apr 2019

I read many of his friends were gobsmacked by his behavior. There must be a large group of Republicans who see Trump as the last chance to enact their vision. If Trump goes down, there really is no road ahead for them. I think he sacrificed his reputation on this weird altar.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
8. If Trump were to make him a Supreme Justice it
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 03:31 PM
Apr 2019

would explain his behavior. He would be untouchable then.

It is the one thing that makes sense. He would be set for life in his view.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
12. I'm responding to your OP about what could possibly be Barr's motivation
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 03:52 PM
Apr 2019

You’re probably right about Trump, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t drop a large hint about what’s in it for Barr if he protects Trump. He will lie about anything to anyone, even his strongest defenders. He’s an equal opportunity manipulator.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
14. That's possible. But Trump is known for not keeping promises
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 04:09 PM
Apr 2019

and for manipulating people. Would Barr be foolish enough to believe him if he did promise him the Supreme Court? Maybe...

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
15. It's possible he might believe Trump
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 04:14 PM
Apr 2019

So far he’s been richly rewarded by past Presidents. Why not with this one?

Everyone who has ever worked for Trump must have believed shit like this. Everyone.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
16. They believed shit and came out covered in shit.
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 05:20 PM
Apr 2019

By this time, anybody who goes to work for Trump believing they won't be covered in shit deserves it when it happens, just for being stupid.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
18. We keep missing the obvious on all these guys
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 05:31 PM
Apr 2019

1. Compromised by Russian Intelligence
2. Russian asset

And, IMO, the list is long and includes many repukes and we may have others from the 'liberal' side on the list.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
6. I think all these R's stick with Trump to stack the courts.
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 03:23 PM
Apr 2019

They’ll remain loyal as long as possible to achieve the goal of overturning Roe and establishing conservative dominance in the judiciary, a powerful branch of government less subject to future electoral change.

They know he’s illegitimate, immoral, unethical, repulsive, cruel and ignorant, but they’ll use him as long as possible to get what they want.

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
7. He submarined Iran-Contra so how sterling could his reputation have been?
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 03:24 PM
Apr 2019

He is, and always has been, a political hack.

srobertss

(261 posts)
10. Michael Isikoff
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 03:34 PM
Apr 2019

On the podcast Skullduggery was giving him a lot of benefits of the doubt before the report was released. That’s what made me think that in spite of Iran Contra, his reputation was still intact. It’s a parallel situation, right? Sacrificing integrity for the sake of the party. But it wasn’t nearly as obviously corrupt back then. Or maybe I just wasn’t paying as much attention back then. But now, he has completely flushed his reputation down the toilet of public opinion. Even Chris Matthews on Fox News went after him.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
13. We didn't have the internet and social media then so we had to rely
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 03:56 PM
Apr 2019

On the media.

We can liken that to someone today never using the internet or any social media and just relying on televised news for information. Like MAGATs only watching Fox News.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
17. It also involved a relatively arcane issue.
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 05:26 PM
Apr 2019

The 1989 OLC opinion that he wrote and tried to suppress, then inaccurately "summarized" under pressure, addressed the legal question as to whether the FBI had the authority to arrest people in foreign countries. Bush I wanted Noriega gone, and Barr was looking at possible ways to do it. As it happened, US troops eventually invaded Panama and captured Noriega, so the opinion was never needed or used. Another difference is that Barr wasn't trying to protect a rogue president (we might not have liked Poppy very much, but he wasn't in Trump's league of rampant, overt criminality and corruption). By the time the actual opinion was subpoenaed and released, it was kind of irrelevant even though it did expose the fact that Barr's summary significantly misrepresented its major points. Anyhow, the matter didn't get much news coverage at all. And maybe that really is the reason Barr thought he could get away with it this time.

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