Only a formal resolution authorizing the judiciary committee to start an impeachment investigation will authorize the committee to subpoena grand jury testimony. It is the only thing that will lead to actual consequences for Trump: going down in history as the third President to be impeached by the House of Representatives.

"The House Judiciary Committee will issue a subpoena for the full, unredacted Mueller report today – including blacked-out grand jury testimony that typically is closely guarded by the courts, committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler said Friday morning."


https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2019-04-19/nadler-to-subpoena-full-mueller-report

Many on DU have made the same claim you're making, but I have yet to see any confirmation that it's true. Apparently, Chairman Nadler doesn't think it's accurate or he wouldn't have made the statement.

According to PBS, this is "uncharted territory":
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/could-congress-force-the-mueller-report-to-be-made-public

Also, a federal appeals court in Washington, DC, sided with grand jury secrecy this month, ruling that federal district judges don't have the power to make the grand jury's records public, even in historically significant cases. https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/05/politics/grand-jury-secrecy/index.html

It will probably end up in front of a judge if Barr refuses to turn over grand jury testimony. According to this PBS article, that is "uncharted territory," and a judge may not order release.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/could-congress-force-the-mueller-report-to-be-made-public

And there is more bad news. A federal appeals court in Washington, DC, sided with grand jury secrecy this month, ruling that federal district judges don't have the power to make the grand jury's records public, even in historically significant cases.https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/05/politics/grand-jury-secrecy/index.html

For reasons I don't quite understand, many people keep making the claim that impeachment is some magic wand that will make the Trump admin hand over anything the House asks for. From everything I've read, including the article you linked, there's little difference between requests made as part of House investigations and requests made under impeachment. If you have proof to the contrary, I'd love to see it because I have yet to see anything of that nature.

The Trump admin has clearly indicated for more than two years that it finds rules and laws inconvenient, so it will find excuses regardless of how the information is requested.

Plus, according to the article you linked, Barr has a legal out either way.

"But in making his decision, Barr is bound by federal laws that limit how certain material from federal investigations can be shared. In particular, one section of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure — known in legal circles by its number, 6e — prohibits, with few exceptions, the public release of information obtained through grand jury testimony. The rule is intended to keep information classified in federal criminal investigations, and protect the privacy of an individual or entity that has not been charged with a crime.

“Barr doesn’t have the power to say, ‘We’re turning grand jury information over [to the House of Representatives] for the purposes of an impeachment or anything else,’” said Stephen Bates, a legal expert at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, who worked on the independent counsel investigation into former President Bill Clinton."

From the Washington Post:

In the face of Barr’s decision not to disclose any of the Mueller report to the public or even to the House Judiciary Committee chaired by Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D- N.Y.) until Barr and his team have scrubbed the report of grand jury information (and other material), Nadler and committee Democrats have authorized a subpoena for the full report, setting the stage for a court fight over the committee’s right to see grand jury information. Although the public need underlying the request for disclosure in McKeever was much less pressing, the decision in that case undermines the position of Nadler’s committee, because the controlling federal rule contains no exception allowing congressional “oversight” committees to demand access to otherwise secret grand jury proceedings.

One of the exceptions to grand jury secrecy is disclosure “preliminary to or in connection with a judicial proceeding.” To authorize disclosure of the Watergate grand jury information, the special prosecutor’s office argued that the House had authorized its Judiciary Committee to conduct a formal impeachment inquiry and that such an inquiry could be fairly analogized to a “grand jury” investigation and thus a judicial proceeding. Both the district court and the court of appeals agreed, and the Judiciary Committee obtained both the report and the underlying evidence.

Significantly, the appeals court decision several days ago reaffirmed that exception. All three judges agreed that an impeachment inquiry falls within the “exception for judicial proceedings” and “coheres” with other rulings about the proper scope of grand jury secrecy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-full-mueller-report-could-be-released--if-the-house-opens-impeachment-hearings/2019/04/08/e47fff42-5a14-11e9-a00e-050dc7b82693_story.html

"One of the exceptions to grand jury secrecy is disclosure “preliminary to or in connection with a judicial proceeding.”"

That doesn't say "impeachment" anywhere. It says judicial proceeding.

If the HJC running an investigation is considered a judicial proceeding, it applies as an exception, based on that statement.

A long used Republican strategy that Dems need to employ now.

Impeach already. #Resist

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even if we know it wouldn't happen. At least the impeachment hearing should keep him on his best behavior (relatively speaking), until we can vote him out.

If you think 2016 was bad wait until 2020 (re: foreign help).

Republicans would have issued a subpoena for the Mueller report the day they heard the report was completed; and Republicans would already have multiple, ongoing fact-finding hearings, public and private, regarding each and every allegation of wrongdoing whether it's a rumor, conspiracy theory, or hard fact, AND they'd be spinning their findings with outrage aplenty in coast to coast media outlets from sun up to sun down.

All of this they would do while assuring "the American people" that the failure to take such measures would be a dereliction of their constitutional duty.

In that vacuum, republicans will start crying foul, attacking witnesses, demanding investigations of the investigators....oh yeah, they're already doing that!

We have to seize this moment and drown them in attacks. Put them on the defense. We have truth on our side.

The easily led will assume that democrats do not have the courage of their convictions and they will conclude that democrats must be on the wrong side of Justice. This is the golden moment for democrats to stand up in unity and impeach!

a dozens of other reasons. Drag it out, televise hearings. The media will have to cover it and perhaps more of the public will learn.

Btw, I just heard from an old republican associate I've not talked to in yrs. Guess she's finding out her party doesn't wear the halos she thought. Yes, politics divided us - we both wore our political views on out sleeves.

His ego does whatever it wants, regardless of the circumstances. If we impeach him, he'll be emboldened and ramp up the "witch hunt" nonsense. If he's acquitted, he'll be emboldened and claim his innocence, even in the face of incontrovertible evidence to the contrary. If we don't impeach him, he'll proclaim that he was innocent all along. None of this will surprise anyone.

He loves playing the victim, so whatever we do, he's going to be emboldened. There's little doubt that he will use impeachment to double-down on the BS.

They were just discussing this on Politics Nation. Other countries are watching is too. We must hold all of them accountable ASAP or our reputation will be even more harmed.

If we impeach him and he's acquitted, he'll be more emboldened.

But, as I noted, it's largely irrelevant. He does and says what he wants, regardless of what anyone else does or says.

"hold all of them accountable "

How is an impeachment with a guaranteed acquittal holding him accountable for anything? The impeachment isn't what's going to hold him accountable. The hearings, investigations, subpoenas, etc., are the only things that have a chance of holding him accountable, and the end result of all of that will probably be after he's voted out in 2020.

He gets emboldened by criticism of his menu choices for team dinners at the White House. It's not like anything we or anyone does is going to stop him from being emboldened about anything.

He already has the red states locked up so all he needs are Pennsylvania, michigan, and Wisconsin again to tip it to 270. And I hate even typing this . I dont want to live another 4 years under a dictatorship where minorities are told to leave the US or be put in concentration camps.
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just being black.

Connect the GOP to Trump every chance we get, this isn't just a problem with Trump, it's a problem with the entire party that enables him.

Drive the media narrative so Trump's crimes & lies are talked about on the news for months ... that's how we educate the general public & build public support for us while tearing down his support.