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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,996 posts)
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 03:26 PM Apr 2019

Capitalism in crisis: U.S. billionaires worry about the survival of the system that made them rich

PALO ALTO, Calif. — A perfect California day. The sun was shining, a gentle breeze was blowing and, at a Silicon Valley coffee shop, Rep. Ro Khanna was sitting across from one of his many billionaire constituents discussing an uncomfortable subject: the growing unpopularity of billionaires and their giant tech companies.

“There’s some more humility out here,” Khanna (D-Calif.) said.

The billionaire on the other side of the table let out a nervous laugh. Chris Larsen was on his third start-up and well on his way to being one of the wealthiest people in the valley, if not the world.

“Realizing people hate your guts has some value,” he joked.

For decades, Democrats and Republicans have hailed America’s business elite, especially in Silicon Valley, as the country’s salvation. The government might be gridlocked, the electorate angry and divided, but America’s innovators seemed to promise a relatively pain-free way out of the mess. Their companies produced an endless series of products that kept the U.S. economy churning and its gross domestic product climbing. Their philanthropic efforts were aimed at fixing some of the country’s most vexing problems. Government’s role was to stay out of the way.

Now that consensus is shattering. For the first time in decades, capitalism’s future is a subject of debate among presidential hopefuls and a source of growing angst for America’s business elite. In places such as Silicon Valley, the slopes of Davos, Switzerland, and the halls of Harvard Business School, there is a sense that the kind of capitalism that once made America an economic envy is responsible for the growing inequality and anger that is tearing the country apart.

On a quiet weekday at a strip-mall coffee shop, the conversation between Khanna and Larsen turned to what went so wrong.

Americans still loved technology, Khanna said, but too many of them felt locked out of the country’s economic future and were looking for someone to blame.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/capitalism-in-crisis-us-billionaires-worry-about-the-survival-of-the-system-that-made-them-rich/2019/04/20/3e06ef90-5ed8-11e9-bfad-36a7eb36cb60_story.html?utm_term=.f6f526af2e51&wpisrc=al_trending_now__alert-economy--alert-politics--alert-national&wpmk=1

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A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
3. ..."and were looking for someone to blame" ?!?
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 03:31 PM
Apr 2019

Looking?

Anyone with half an ounce of self awareness that has been paying any attention at all for the last 30
Years knows PRECISELY who to blame.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
5. True but only one natural path...
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 03:39 PM
Apr 2019

You can constrain capitalism loosely or very stringently, but capitalism as a natural system ends only ONE way, with capital in the hands of a very few wealthy and powerful people, and misery for the rest.

When the basis of the system is to accumulate capital, then the endgame is like the game of monopoly. The person with all of the money wins. Any other system is not really capitalism, it is a mixture of other systems that are set up to keep capitalism from its end state.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
6. Capitalism is a ridiculous system IMO. It rewards all of the bad behaviors and eventually
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 03:48 PM
Apr 2019

devours itself. In today's world capitalism is obsolete IMO.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
10. Yes, quite true. The problem with most systems is the greedy manage to work their way to the top and
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 04:18 PM
Apr 2019

then rig the system to screw over the rest of the populace, much as we see today in the US. Even with socialism the same can occur. The people need absolute power and control over the system. We thought we had that in the US, but it has eroded over time. I don't know if a perfect system exists, but it could be far better than the disaster capitalism in the US today which will eventually fall apart as not sustainable. With the computing power we have today, something likely better could be developed ... but the implementation would probably be difficult without some type of revolution. The alternative is to rebuild when the current system falls apart, but IMO that is certainly not a smart approach.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
7. Is it even possible to become a billionaire without exploiting and hurting other people?
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 03:53 PM
Apr 2019

Or hurting the environment we all depend on for survival? Seems that to accumulate that much wealth requires an enormous sense of entitlement and disregard for life. When you have more money than you can possibly spend in one lifetime, you have too much. And there are many, many more who could really use it. It would be of greater benefit if excess wealth were actually in circulation among the people, not just investments that create little more than more money.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
11. One of my friend's father is extremely wealthy. He said at a young age he had to decide if he wanted
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 04:26 PM
Apr 2019

to be a criminal or an investor/capitalist. He felt the latter is pretty criminal too, but legal. I think if you look through history many of the wealthy, really wealthy, often display a lot of sociopathic behavior and are border criminals. In corporations ... the hard nosed CEO that does not mind destroying thousands to please the stockholders ... often a sociopath. I've been around them.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
9. Smdh...somebody needs to write a thesis paper on mountains and molehills lol.
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 03:57 PM
Apr 2019

The solution that these rich silicon valley new-age robber barons are oh-so-worried about is fucking simple:

raise taxes on the fucking new-age robber barons (and their companies).

A CHILD with a passing fifth grade math and civics scores could figure this shit out...but silicon valleys Harvard - educated CEOs are all a flutter as to the fucking solution...

As Above, so As Below...

smdh heh.

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