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https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/another-warning-sign-2/This is a bell Ive been ringing a lot around here for two years, I know (including just last week regarding the desolate wasteland that is the Department of Homeland Security). But its important, and elements of the report really brought it home. The most striking of these was this paragraph on page 158 of the second volume of the report:
The Presidents efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests. Comey did not end the investigation of Flynn, which ultimately resulted in Flynns prosecution and conviction for lying to the FBI. McGahn did not tell the Acting Attorney General that the Special Counsel must be removed, but was instead prepared to resign over the Presidents order. Lewandowski and Dearborn did not deliver the Presidents message to Sessions that he should confine the Russia investigation to future election meddling only. And McGahn refused to recede from his recollections about events surrounding the Presidents direction to have the Special Counsel removed, despite the Presidents multiple demands that he do so.
That paragraph summarizes a pattern of behavior evident throughout the evidence laid out in that second volume. Simply put, the people who work for the president use their judgment to decide when to do what he says and when to ignore him or flatly contradict his decisions.
This extraordinary pattern in the report brought to mind an incident from very early in the Trump era. On January 15 of 2017, a few days before Trumps inauguration, the President-Elect was interviewed by the Washington Post, and when asked about health care he said his team would soon propose its own health-care reformthat it was worked out, and that it would not reduce coverage numbers but would cost less than Obamacare. The statement sent the little conservative health policy world into a frenzy: What was this plan? Who was working on it? What kinds of ideas was it based on? The barrage of group emails was soon ended, however, by a note from a member of Trumps little policy circle, who would soon become a senior administration official. The message was simple: Trump had no idea what he was talking about, the proposal he mentioned was a figment of his imagination, and dont worry about iteverything was under control.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)elleng
(130,943 posts)the proposal he mentioned was a figment of his imagination, and dont worry about iteverything was under control.'
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)no possibility that Trump's obstruction prevented him from finding evidence of a criminal conspiracy (for example).
I've also seen it inaccurately reported that there was no evidence of conspiracy:
- the Trump Tower meeting with the Russian lawyer and Manafort, Kushner & Jr to discuss Russians providing dirt on Hillary with Don Jr saying "I love it" and Trump & Jr lying about it
- Manafort, Trump's campaign manager, providing internal polling data multiple times to Russia and lying about it
- Flynn discussing sanctions with Russians before Trump assumed the office and lying about it
- more than 100 contacts with Russian by Trump campaign personnel
- Stone, Corsi, Papadopoulos, lying about what went on
etc, etc
stillcool
(32,626 posts)I read...that because no one knew what the Russians did with that polling data, it's nothing. And, that because the Trump Campaign didn't participate with the Russians in stealing the emails, or hacking into state governments voting systems, it's nothing. They benefited, but they themselves were not involved in doing the crime. It seems for some people it's really hard to break the law.
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)They were not able to prove it.
I'm sure the obstruction by Trump and his lying minions didn't help. And there is a good chance they destroyed the evidence that could have proven it but a nice cop like Mueller can't say it quite like that ... because he can't prove it.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)cyber-crimes are the way to go.