I'm not advocating tit-for-tat, sinking to his level of vulgarity.

But he's got two years' worth of atrocities, and I'd damn sure fight back with his record when he moves in for the kill. And he WILL, make no mistake about it. He'll be crude and rude and will make up lies in the absence of "ammunition." I don't think that should be met with "taking the high road."

YES, we have to deliver a positive message that will resonate with voters.

NO, we don't have to stand still for a whipping from Trump while we do that.

time to fight using ALL available tools to the fullest extent.

i was a cheerleader.

Four white supremacists are just beating the shit out of a black man....really huriing him.
In desperation, the man bites one of the men on the calf.
The white supremacists say things like "Hey.. fight fair, n-----!" And beat him all the harder.

The Repubs are the white supremacists, and trump has made America the black man in the story.

I think they should do both. "Trump wants to take away your health care; I want to be sure you and all Americans have it." "Trump wants to give corporations the right to pollute our air and water; I want to be sure our air and water are clean." "Trump wants to keep little children in cages; I want us to have a humane and fair immigration system." "Trump wants to cut the taxes of the wealthiest Americans; I want to be sure ordinary Americans don't have to pay the taxes that should be the responsibility of the richest families." Stuff like that, but more eloquent and effective.

Your ideas are both sane (not that the "drump" crew could understand) and pragmatic. It needs to be put out there in "simple" charts that the general public can understand.
Truly, there has to be some "discussion" taking place - even if they don't all listen.
We must take the initiative to show what is really true and what it means to our country!

We need honor, not dishonor. But we need to be fearless in taking the fight to 45 and his horrible enablers. Use their real acts against them, not adolescent smears.

They might fight dirty but that calls for vigilance, unity and the conviction that what is left after the fight is over will need to be good material for rebuilding, not a scorched earth.

don't count on it. he's been doing this for years and has gotten damn good at it.

We need experts who can kick him in the nuts (tough enough since they're such a tiny target) and get away with it.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

...Don't say it can't be done because it has. A group of extreme right-wing fascists have taken over one of our political parties along with our federal government. Now they're calling for a purge of any opposition. They are charging that our democratically elected officials and government have conspired to overthrow the president while offering no proof and only lies. This is right out of the Nazi playbook.

...And after they jail, purge or eliminate all political opposition, they'll most likely declare trump dictator for life. We seem to be in denial of what's really unfolding right before our very eyes.

...what's next America?

...

Just because you take the gloves off doesn't mean they need to get dirty.