General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNow where could the shooter have gotten a crazy idea like that?
Josh Marshall
Straight out of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Just moments ago, Lou Dobbs guest Chris Farrell (head of Judicial Watch) says Caravan is being funded/directed by the "Soros-occupied State Department".
VIDEO:
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
The Dobbs-Trump mind as they term it means that Dobbs has more access to the President that most official advisors and government entities.
For example, Trump recently let Dobbs listen in on a meeting on economic policy with the Council of Economic Advisers.
Day by day, the relationship between the bombastic president and the cranky anchorman has become an object of curiosity and amusement. But it is also something much more profound, the Washington Post writes.
Dobbs helped shape some of Trumps most extreme policies at the border, the Post notes.
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/trump-makes-almost-daily-calls-foxs-lou-dobbs-advice-attack-immigrants-report/
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)He's from the darkest corners of the internet, not mainstream shit like Faux.
https://heavy.com/news/2019/04/john-earnest/
2naSalit
(86,634 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,593 posts)and they are discussing it on the local San Diego news. He planned all of this and had to educate himself all in the past 4 weeks. He answered a lot of questions that would be asked like any mental illness, his political views, his parents and their background and genealogy as well as what his beliefs are. He mentioned one guy who he wrote supported the attack and financed it too.
"I had the help of a man named Felix Arvid Ulf Kjellberg. He was kind enough to plan and fund this whole operationthe sly bastard."
https://heavy.com/news/2019/04/john-earnest/
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Apparently that's some 'inside joke' among these killers populating 8-Chan, like him and the NZ killer ... saying this internet 'star' was involved. Dunno what that's about but doubt this was funded by anyone.
BigmanPigman
(51,593 posts)it IS like Greek to me.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)'personality' who posts White Supremacist type videos on Youtube. His real name ... is the one you quoted from Earnest's manifesto.
It appears that both Earnest, and the NZ shooter, have tried to 'pin it' on PewDiePie in this fashion, but their real motivation was that they view PDP as something of a sell-out/traitor, because he's dramatically toned-down his earlier rhetoric because Youtube has been frowning heavily on it, and he makes a lot of $$$ from Youtube.
So that's why I said both these two killers appear to be trolling PDP in their manifestos. There's no way PDP funded either operation. They just want to embarrass him for not 'keeping up the good fight' in their eyes.
4Chan/8Chan are un-moderated internet message boards with no filters, and everybody is anonymous (unless they blurt out their name, as this guy did). You can say/post anything on these boards apart from Kiddie Porn and Illegal Software, and it's a deep, dark corner of the internet where every conspiracy theory is allowed to flourish. Q-Anon is another famous 4/8Chan-sourced conspiracy theory. That's where this guy got his nonsense info, and where he think he has 'brothers', and posted his manifesto.
BigmanPigman
(51,593 posts)The only thing I recognized was "anon" in his letter. On the local news they just reported that his mom was heard saying "but he doesn't even have a rifle". I wonder where he got that from as well as the training.
If I wanted to and was determined to do something like this I would have to learn a lot...like what a bullet looks like since I have never even seen one (my family is a bunch of pacifists).
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)SPEECH!
We've let this go on too long under the guise of the 1st Amendment. I've long been a proponent - to not minor criticism - of exempting from free speech protections anything associated with Naziism: it is a belief system of geocide!
I remember way back in the 70s when neo-Nazis applied for and got a permit to march in/near Skokie, IL, where many Holocaust
survivors live, citing the 1st Amendment. I thought it was wrong then and I still do.
Anything attached to a belief system of murder - whether Native American genocide, African American slavery, etc. ...1st amendment does not and should not protect it.
Cf. Post WWII Germany!
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-neo-nazi-skokie-march-flashback-perspec-0312-20170310-story.html
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/8/16/16152088/nazi-swastikas-germany-charlottesville
sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)appear to have the physical composition of a 100% white male. I think genetic testing should be done on all who are arrested and claim they acted in defense of the white race. I think it would be intetesting.