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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn DC Yesterday - white nationalists march on a bookstore - get booed, taped, and id-d on twitter
Twitter story/thread (the exposure appears down the thread)
Link to tweet
So this bullshit just went down today at Politics & Prose. White nationalists disrupting @JonathanMetzl talk on his book Dying of Whiteness. Point made. @PM_Learn
Interrupted author's response on twitter:
Link to tweet
I spent the morning speaking at the amazing #AntiracistBookFest - then these losers tried to make the afternoon into the racistbookfest - But the audience wasnt having it
Washington covers it
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/white-nationalists-interrupt-author-at-politics-and-prose/2019/04/27/d48012c6-692d-11e9-82ba-fcfeff232e8f_story.html?utm_term=.1963d17fc537
Excerpt from the middle of the article:
About 10 white male protesters walked into Politics and Prose shortly after Metzl began his talk at 3:30 p.m., videos posted on Twitter show. They gathered in front of Metzl, and an unidentified man with an electric megaphone declared, You would have the white working class trade their homeland for handouts.
The crowd began booing, and the man continued talking. Eventually, the group left the store.
Amid the booing, the man added, But we, as nationalists and identitarians, can offer the workers of this country a homeland, their birthright, in addition to health care, good jobs and so forth. The booing got louder. He then started the chant of This land is our land, and the men walked back out.
And on the original twitter thread (linked above) a twitterer starts identifying who some of the marchers are - and the affiliation with Identity Europa.
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My comments:
1) What the hell do these clowns think they are accomplishing, except further marginalizing of themselves?
As clownish as it seems, it empowers/or fires up the even less stable with this toxic fury such that...
2) Hours later on the other side of the country, a similarly toxified dude shoots up and kills at synagogue.
RKP5637
(67,109 posts)Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)Be a shame if they got out on social media.
salin
(48,955 posts)Were it not for the violent and at times lethal actions of some of these assholes - it would just be a hilarious side show.
Instead it is a creepy, and at times deadly movement. But it is pointless. None of this - ridiculous "protests", nor lethal sprees, are going to start a race war, or a civil war. It's pathological.
appalachiablue
(41,140 posts)salin
(48,955 posts)they are clueless.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)dalton99a
(81,513 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)White supremacists have exactly one place in society - living in a cardboard box and eating out of a dumpster.
Maraya1969
(22,482 posts)barbtries
(28,798 posts)which is too obvious of course, but i got this reply on twitter:
They were chanting "AIM, AIM, AIM" which I didn't recognize. But we looked it up. It's a group called "American Identity Movement."
salin
(48,955 posts)Because you most certainly were hearing hate, even if not the specific word hate.
barbtries
(28,798 posts)i heard the meaning, not the word.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)salin
(48,955 posts)They suggest that it may stand for "American Identity Movement." Which seems like an ironic chant for white nationalists - though I doubt they get irony, just white supremacy that only defines white Americans as Americans. Assholes. Oh - maybe it means Asshole Identity Movement? It should mean that.
spedtr90
(719 posts)"The American Identity Movement (AIM) is considered by some experts to be a rebranded version of Identity Evropa, which the SPLC dubs a white nationalist group and the ADL considers white supremacist. Current leaders of AIM deny that and have distanced themselves from Identity Evropa."
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/kim-foxx-proud-boys-american-guard-identity-movement-nationalists/
salin
(48,955 posts)"our hate" ... sheesh. Asshole idiots.
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)amywalk
(254 posts)Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #7)
amywalk This message was self-deleted by its author.
Roy Rolling
(6,917 posts)Nice of them to walk through the gauntlet to have their close-up picture taken. World-wide Interweb, do your work. LOL
They better apply for a Trump administration job now, because most of them will not work where they were employed come Monday.
PatSeg
(47,482 posts)Is that really all they can find to do with their spare time?
salin
(48,955 posts)Pathetic is a good description.
PatSeg
(47,482 posts)It is their idea of a social outing, kind of like the Tea Party people a few years ago, who evidently got tired of playing Bingo. So they took their lawn chairs and picnic lunches and went out to protest something or other.
djacq
(1,634 posts)That's my African American brown middle finger to these White Supremacists.
Looking forward to reading this book.
salin
(48,955 posts)of this stunt and the idiocy of these white supremacists.
nini
(16,672 posts)The reaction would be a bit different.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)They must be identifed, lose their jobs and be ostracized.
joe_stampingbull
(165 posts)he thrives on hate and division
zaj
(3,433 posts)You answered your own question.
"As clownish as it seems, it empowers/or fires up the even less stable with this toxic fury such that... "
They are losing their "birthright" sense of entitlement to power.
Democracy won't work for them as it has always worked.
If they can't win elections with their ideas, and rigging the elections won't keep them in power, then they will slowly radicalize a group willing to start a war.
That's not their goal, but it's what they are willing to do.
patphil
(6,180 posts)Not in the United States, where all 5 races are present in large numbers.
Not in the United States where there are hundreds of ethnic and religious groups.
Not in the United States where the races have been mixing for hundreds of years.
In the United States, there are only nationalists; people who embrace that diversity and uphold the rights of all under the Constitution.
There are, however, a lot of White Supremacists.
Please call them as they really are.
This Country has NEVER been a white nation. It has always been a mix of the races, even before it became a nation.
AND, it will NEVER be just a white nation.
White nationalism is a false label.
Patrick Phillips
paleotn
(17,920 posts)That's goddamn right!!
underpants
(182,826 posts)I point this out to people all the time - What was Jamestown? The first permanent English settlement. There are two obvious qualifiers that people mentally skip over those due to repetition.
paleotn
(17,920 posts)Metzl said that when the protesters walked in, he was talking about a man in the bookstore audience who had helped his father and grandparents escape the Nazis in Austria. I was saying how much stronger America is when we think about our responsibility to people in need. At that point, the Nazis walked into the talk.
That is exactly what they are..Nazis. Not this neo- bullshit. They're straight from the beer hall putsch of 1923. This fucking trash would gladly man the sorting ques at Auschwitz and should be treated as such. Denazified in the most draconian sense of the word. They deserve nothing less morally and are politically a clear and present danger to our democracy. House them next door to Terry Nichols for the rest of their miserable lives.
underpants
(182,826 posts)Supremacists neo this and alt that. Nah they're all Nazis in my book. If you find yourself agreeing with Nazis in any way or walking beside them, consider yourself a Nazi.
sop
(10,191 posts)"You might be a Nazi if..." Forget all the old stuff about double-wides, rusty washing machines in the front yard and broken down pick-up trucks. These days it's tiki torches, fashy haircuts and posting homages to Hermann Göring on Stormfront and 8Chan.
gateley
(62,683 posts)sop
(10,191 posts)So-called "white identitarians" aren't simply proud of being caucasian, or celebrating their European ancestry. These goons are proud of shitty, awful things like Hitler, the Klan and the Confederacy.
One cant imagine a context in which the term white pride doesn't conjure up images of nazis, concentration camps, slavery, white hoods and lynchings. Now, with Trump as president, it's images of caged children on the border, and mosques or synagogues full of dead bodies.
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backscatter712
(26,355 posts)They are to be disowned from the human race.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)So much of this is reminiscent of early 30s Germany, we must beat this back, no excuses we need to show up and vote every time there is a vote, not just every presidential election. We need to win locally, statewide, nationally. It all matters.