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Maraya1969

(22,480 posts)
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 09:28 AM Apr 2019

Please stop saying "Who can beat Trump?" It gives validity to an election that

was won by the Russians! If it were not for the Russians and Jim Comey Hillary would be president, period!

A banana slug could beat Trump in a fair election. The 2016 election was not fair, it was a systemic attack on our country by a foreign adversary.

And now we know that they actually hacked into one of our computer systems. How many others?


Trump is an illegitimate president who was put in power by one of our enemies. Please don't forget that!

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Please stop saying "Who can beat Trump?" It gives validity to an election that (Original Post) Maraya1969 Apr 2019 OP
"Trump is an illegitimate president who was put in power by one of our enemies." Botany Apr 2019 #1
I had the same thing on my mind this morning. Any rational human rzemanfl Apr 2019 #2
No. No. No. A banana slug SHOULD beat trump, doesn't mean it would. Who can win is #1. Period. themaguffin Apr 2019 #3
If a banana slug can beat Trump, Trump will not run delisen Apr 2019 #13
A banana slug is WAY more qualified... and would easily beat tRumpy!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #26
We offered one of the most qualified people ever to be President in 2016 & yet we have Trumpy themaguffin Apr 2019 #29
Yep, if we all get 100% behind our Bettie Apr 2019 #4
The cheater Trump should be given no legitimacy Greybnk48 Apr 2019 #5
What if Weld wins the republican nomination? blueinredohio Apr 2019 #6
...or Kasich....or any other Republican? delisen Apr 2019 #15
How, with a such a large portion of Republicans solidly behind trump? themaguffin Apr 2019 #16
They're republicans. Some of them may not like Trump but still want to vote republican. blueinredohio Apr 2019 #18
He could never win Polybius Apr 2019 #30
That's why there are so many candidates... lame54 Apr 2019 #7
Never forget it loves_da_dems Apr 2019 #8
The problem is... virtually nothing has been done to prevent the Russians from doing it again... bsiebs Apr 2019 #9
So... What should be the emphasis? jimmyzvoice Apr 2019 #10
The systemic forces, both domestic and foreign, ChiTownDenny Apr 2019 #11
Trump was already beaten once by a considerable margin... Hugin Apr 2019 #12
It shouldn't matter... WcoastO Apr 2019 #14
Please stop with the Hillary bashing. triron Apr 2019 #21
Not a Hillary basher....... WcoastO Apr 2019 #24
Ok sorry for the misunderstanding. triron Apr 2019 #28
I didn't read it that way. The "party machinery" is there to be used; it's legitimate, & she used it Hekate Apr 2019 #27
*****THIS!!!******* If Russia Helped Trump then Trump didn't win !!! ..*** PERIOD !!! *** uponit7771 Apr 2019 #17
Yes the false meme (or narrative) is pushed here but even moreso and incessantly on MSM. triron Apr 2019 #19
It matters who can win. TRUMP MUST GO. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #20
donald trump is the President of the United States. Captain Stern Apr 2019 #22
Trump is 'president' cause he was willing to commit treason to win. eos. triron Apr 2019 #23
Ok... then lets say this: The candidate who can beat Trump is the candidate.. honest.abe Apr 2019 #25
Don't underestimate the number of people who voted for him. cwydro Apr 2019 #31
Just plain nope. triron Apr 2019 #32

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
2. I had the same thing on my mind this morning. Any rational human
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:01 AM
Apr 2019

could beat Drumpf. I doubt you could find a 35 year-old banana slug though. K&R.

themaguffin

(3,826 posts)
3. No. No. No. A banana slug SHOULD beat trump, doesn't mean it would. Who can win is #1. Period.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:06 AM
Apr 2019

Nothing else matters.

delisen

(6,043 posts)
13. If a banana slug can beat Trump, Trump will not run
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:26 PM
Apr 2019

As soon as Russia and Republican Party decide the banana slug is a winner, they will dump trump and back another patsy-maybe a banana slug

They would even let a compromised Dem win (I don't think any Dem announced candidate is compromised).

As long as candidates frame issues without taking the non-shooting war with Russia into account, they are mis-framing.

Elections are now battlefields not playing fields.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
26. A banana slug is WAY more qualified... and would easily beat tRumpy!!
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 06:13 PM
Apr 2019

As long as it's a progressive slug!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
4. Yep, if we all get 100% behind our
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:13 AM
Apr 2019

candidate, there is no way the orange thing wins without serious and obvious fraud.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
5. The cheater Trump should be given no legitimacy
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:16 AM
Apr 2019

EVER. Thank you for posting this and we all need to challenge the idea that we need a candidate that can beat him. ANYONE will beat him in a fair election! The vast majority of Americans hate him!

Polybius

(15,421 posts)
30. He could never win
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 09:48 PM
Apr 2019

He's not even a moderate Republican, he's a liberal Republican. He's hated by them outside of his home state.

 

loves_da_dems

(67 posts)
8. Never forget it
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:58 AM
Apr 2019

MF45 colluded with the Russians to steal the election. Anyone could beat him in a fair election. Everyone hates him, even people who voted for him after his little stunt of raising the working man and middle class taxes to give a tax cut to billionaires.

 

ChiTownDenny

(747 posts)
11. The systemic forces, both domestic and foreign,
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:21 PM
Apr 2019

that conspired to alter the results of the 2016 election was astounding; primarily the FBI and the Russians.

Hugin

(33,148 posts)
12. Trump was already beaten once by a considerable margin...
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:25 PM
Apr 2019

However, he was installed on what amounts to a technicality.

WcoastO

(55 posts)
14. It shouldn't matter...
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:27 PM
Apr 2019

trump needs to be defeated, period. Lack of "purity" with Gore (according to Naderites) gave us Bush and subsequently Roberts and Alito; Clinton's defeat by 70,000 votes spread over 3 states gave us trump and Gosuch and Kavanaugh.......how many Dems sat out the election or voted for Stein because Clinton used the party machinery to get nominated? If trump gets reelected, it is game over.....6 radical right wingers on the SCOTUS........it absolutely doesn't matter who runs against trump, trump has to go.

WcoastO

(55 posts)
24. Not a Hillary basher.......
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 05:49 PM
Apr 2019

supported her all the way......maybe I should rephrase it....there is good evidence she benefited from the process - that is a fact - but bottomline, she was possibly the most qualified candidate ever for POTUS.

Hekate

(90,704 posts)
27. I didn't read it that way. The "party machinery" is there to be used; it's legitimate, & she used it
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 06:26 PM
Apr 2019

That's a fact. It's also a fact that HRC won the popular vote despite what amount to acts of treason on the part of the GOP, and delusional behavior on the part of some on the left who claim utter purity alone will get their support.

I'm not relitigating the 2016 election, but we have to deal with these issues in the here and now.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
22. donald trump is the President of the United States.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:42 PM
Apr 2019

You don't like it, I don't like it, but he is. Hillary Clinton isn't.

trump is President because he got more electoral votes than Clinton did. The Russians didn't change any vote totals, they just duped a bunch of our fellow citizens. But, to be fair, most of the people that voted for trump weren't duped.....they'll vote for him again because they like him, and they think he's doing a great job.

We better care about who can beat trump, because if we don't, we'll be sitting here at our keyboards complaining about trump till Jan 20th, 2025.

triron

(22,006 posts)
23. Trump is 'president' cause he was willing to commit treason to win. eos.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:49 PM
Apr 2019

If Americans refuse to see that our democracy is done.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
25. Ok... then lets say this: The candidate who can beat Trump is the candidate..
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 05:56 PM
Apr 2019

that can capture more legitimate votes than the GOP's cheat votes.

That would probably be Biden.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
31. Don't underestimate the number of people who voted for him.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:12 PM
Apr 2019

The Russians may have had influence, but that shitgibbon won because people like him. Sad, but true.

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