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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPlease stop saying "Who can beat Trump?" It gives validity to an election that
was won by the Russians! If it were not for the Russians and Jim Comey Hillary would be president, period!
A banana slug could beat Trump in a fair election. The 2016 election was not fair, it was a systemic attack on our country by a foreign adversary.
And now we know that they actually hacked into one of our computer systems. How many others?
Trump is an illegitimate president who was put in power by one of our enemies. Please don't forget that!
Botany
(70,508 posts)+ 1,000,000,000
rzemanfl
(29,565 posts)could beat Drumpf. I doubt you could find a 35 year-old banana slug though. K&R.
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)Nothing else matters.
delisen
(6,043 posts)As soon as Russia and Republican Party decide the banana slug is a winner, they will dump trump and back another patsy-maybe a banana slug
They would even let a compromised Dem win (I don't think any Dem announced candidate is compromised).
As long as candidates frame issues without taking the non-shooting war with Russia into account, they are mis-framing.
Elections are now battlefields not playing fields.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)As long as it's a progressive slug!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)Bettie
(16,110 posts)candidate, there is no way the orange thing wins without serious and obvious fraud.
Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)EVER. Thank you for posting this and we all need to challenge the idea that we need a candidate that can beat him. ANYONE will beat him in a fair election! The vast majority of Americans hate him!
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)delisen
(6,043 posts)themaguffin
(3,826 posts)blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Polybius
(15,421 posts)He's not even a moderate Republican, he's a liberal Republican. He's hated by them outside of his home state.
lame54
(35,292 posts)They think winning the primary equals winning the general
loves_da_dems
(67 posts)MF45 colluded with the Russians to steal the election. Anyone could beat him in a fair election. Everyone hates him, even people who voted for him after his little stunt of raising the working man and middle class taxes to give a tax cut to billionaires.
bsiebs
(688 posts)jimmyzvoice
(159 posts)Making sure that the Russians are not able to be successful again !!!
ChiTownDenny
(747 posts)that conspired to alter the results of the 2016 election was astounding; primarily the FBI and the Russians.
Hugin
(33,148 posts)However, he was installed on what amounts to a technicality.
WcoastO
(55 posts)trump needs to be defeated, period. Lack of "purity" with Gore (according to Naderites) gave us Bush and subsequently Roberts and Alito; Clinton's defeat by 70,000 votes spread over 3 states gave us trump and Gosuch and Kavanaugh.......how many Dems sat out the election or voted for Stein because Clinton used the party machinery to get nominated? If trump gets reelected, it is game over.....6 radical right wingers on the SCOTUS........it absolutely doesn't matter who runs against trump, trump has to go.
triron
(22,006 posts)WcoastO
(55 posts)supported her all the way......maybe I should rephrase it....there is good evidence she benefited from the process - that is a fact - but bottomline, she was possibly the most qualified candidate ever for POTUS.
triron
(22,006 posts)Hekate
(90,704 posts)That's a fact. It's also a fact that HRC won the popular vote despite what amount to acts of treason on the part of the GOP, and delusional behavior on the part of some on the left who claim utter purity alone will get their support.
I'm not relitigating the 2016 election, but we have to deal with these issues in the here and now.
uponit7771
(90,344 posts)triron
(22,006 posts)Demsrule86
(68,578 posts)Captain Stern
(2,201 posts)You don't like it, I don't like it, but he is. Hillary Clinton isn't.
trump is President because he got more electoral votes than Clinton did. The Russians didn't change any vote totals, they just duped a bunch of our fellow citizens. But, to be fair, most of the people that voted for trump weren't duped.....they'll vote for him again because they like him, and they think he's doing a great job.
We better care about who can beat trump, because if we don't, we'll be sitting here at our keyboards complaining about trump till Jan 20th, 2025.
triron
(22,006 posts)If Americans refuse to see that our democracy is done.
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)that can capture more legitimate votes than the GOP's cheat votes.
That would probably be Biden.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)The Russians may have had influence, but that shitgibbon won because people like him. Sad, but true.