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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCNN's Fareed Zacharia misses an important point in his no-impeachment argument
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/democrats-theres-a-better-strategy-than-impeachment/2019/04/25/c3f0657e-6792-11e9-82ba-fcfeff232e8f_story.html?utm_term=.d0abec8e96a7&wpisrc=nl_ideas&wpmm=1He forgets that in order to get enough votes from independents, the dems need to take action against 45's corruption.
Democrats, theres a better strategy than impeachment
By Fareed Zakaria, Columnist April 25
Consider, for a moment, what the growing talk of impeachment among Democrats sounds like to the tens of millions of people who voted for President Trump. Many of them supported him because they felt ignored, mocked and condescended to by the countrys urban, educated and cosmopolitan elites especially lawyers and journalists. So what happens when their guy gets elected? These same elites pursue a series of maneuvers to try to overturn the results of the 2016 election. It would massively increase the class resentment that feeds support for the president. It would turn the topic away from his misdeeds and toward the Democrats overreach and obsessions. And ultimately, of course, it would fail two-thirds of this Republican-controlled Senate would not vote to convict him allowing Trump to brandish his acquittal as though it were a gold medal.
I know, I know, many argue passionately that this is not a political affair but rather a moral and legal one. After reading the Mueller report, they say, Congress has no option but to fulfill its obligation and impeach Trump. But this view misunderstands impeachment entirely. It is, by design, an inherently political process, not a legal one. Thats why the standard used high crimes and misdemeanors is not one used in criminal procedures. And that is why the decision is entrusted to a political body, Congress, not the courts.
In 1970, when he was House minority leader, Gerald Ford provided the most honest definition of an impeachable offense: whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history. Of the three cases in the United States past, historys judgment is that only one the impeachment proceedings against President Richard M. Nixon was wholly justified. President Andrew Johnsons decision to fire his secretary of war clearly lawful should not have led to his impeachment. The same is true for President Bill Clintons failed Whitewater land deal, which triggered an independent counsel inquiry that went into completely unrelated arenas and used questionable methods of investigation.
Harvard Law Schools Noah Feldman points out that neither history nor the framers intent yields clear lessons on the topic. Its quite possible that many founders would have supported impeachment for serious substantive matters like the usurpation of power by the president. By that standard, would [Abraham] Lincolns suspension of habeas corpus, FDRs internment of the Japanese Americans or [Lyndon] Johnsons massive expansion of the Vietnam War all have been impeachable offenses? Possibly. But these presidents were not impeached because Congress and the country exercised political judgment. And that is why it is entirely appropriate for Democrats to think this through politically.
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CNN's Fareed Zacharia misses an important point in his no-impeachment argument (Original Post)
lindysalsagal
Apr 2019
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GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)1. Fuck Fareed ...
he's a coward.