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'Joe Manchin endorses Susan Collins for reelection' (Original Post) riversedge Apr 2019 OP
I'll just say this: I can't say what I think about that endorsement. lagomorph777 Apr 2019 #1
Joe's pretty much a DINO... Wounded Bear Apr 2019 #2
Yeah, but he'll vote for Majority Leader Schumer! doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #3
By trying to help Collins win, he's trying to keep Democrats from recapturing the Senate. BlueStater Apr 2019 #8
Exactly.... doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #16
You are spot on. riversedge Apr 2019 #34
I sincerely believe that if we end up with a 50-50 Senate tishaLA Apr 2019 #32
Of course he will... doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #33
Jesus Christ, what an asshole. BlueStater Apr 2019 #4
After the Kavanaugh fiasco, she doesn't seem so moderate to me anymore. secondwind Apr 2019 #5
Nobody says nothing about another nobody FakeNoose Apr 2019 #6
What value does it get him? zaj Apr 2019 #7
"I can work across the aisle" helps Susan pull delisen Apr 2019 #13
Sure, it helps her... zaj Apr 2019 #15
Manchin would obliterate Trump in general.. at140 Apr 2019 #9
codswollop shanny Apr 2019 #12
Are you suggesting he throw his hat into the ring? ... marble falls Apr 2019 #20
He should because he would steal lots of votes at140 Apr 2019 #22
Joe Manchin is a Democrat. marble falls Apr 2019 #23
And he gets re-elected in a red state at140 Apr 2019 #28
So you're saying Joe Manchin should join the Democratic primary for POTUS. marble falls Apr 2019 #39
This is what happens when one so badly craves attention Hawaii Hiker Apr 2019 #10
Because of course he does. shanny Apr 2019 #11
He may carry the big D but bluestarone Apr 2019 #14
Gee, where did all the Manchin apologists go? hatrack Apr 2019 #17
That was last year ProudLib72 Apr 2019 #44
In all honesty, how should DU handle this? theaocp Apr 2019 #18
This is an old article posted at least twice. Better to have a dem...as we need warm bodies to Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #38
He'd get hidden if he posted that on DU. marble falls Apr 2019 #19
+1 Ponietz Apr 2019 #30
Sometimes Democrats want a Big Tent. dogman Apr 2019 #21
Is anyone surprised? SoCalDem Apr 2019 #24
Collins will thank him by endorsing his eventual republican opponent n/t Blaukraut Apr 2019 #25
This means Manchin should be banned by DU. backscatter712 Apr 2019 #26
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #27
Fuck him. Seriously, fuck him. Oh, and fuck Susan Collins JDC Apr 2019 #29
. democrank Apr 2019 #31
Sounds like a job for AOC WhiteTara Apr 2019 #35
Right be cause once he is gone why a progressive will win for sure...sarcasm Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #37
My question is WhiteTara Apr 2019 #40
Yes he is that valuable because he is a vote for a majority...without which we get Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #41
I have friends that live in AOC's district...not happy about Amazon. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #42
I think that in the end it will prove that WhiteTara Apr 2019 #43
I see you left off the date...4/11/19. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #36
If as many here say "at least he's a Democrat" . kacekwl Apr 2019 #45
manchin and collins pretty much cancel each other out. spanone Apr 2019 #46

Wounded Bear

(58,662 posts)
2. Joe's pretty much a DINO...
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:23 AM
Apr 2019

this was reported before. He's from a red state, so he gets tolerated. It's about as progressive as WV can do, I guess.

 

doompatrol39

(428 posts)
3. Yeah, but he'll vote for Majority Leader Schumer!
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:23 AM
Apr 2019

Never mind that if he's endorsing Collins he's going directly against any notion of that happening, that's what the very smart, sensible types on here who clearly understand civics way more than I do tell me.


BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
8. By trying to help Collins win, he's trying to keep Democrats from recapturing the Senate.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:28 AM
Apr 2019

We tolerate this douche because he apparently votes with us "when it counts" (whatever that means), but now he's serving as a complete hindrance to his party regaining power. Fuck this guy a billion times over.

 

doompatrol39

(428 posts)
16. Exactly....
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:47 AM
Apr 2019

...I was pointing out the fallacy that so many on here build their house of cards upon. "We need to be nice to him and not primary him because he'll vote for Majority Leader Schumer!!!" but then he turns around and supports a Republican for Senate when every Democratic member counts.

And it's even more galling because it's not even like it's the other Senator from his home state or even his region.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
32. I sincerely believe that if we end up with a 50-50 Senate
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 02:39 PM
Apr 2019

He will switch parties in exchange for next to nothing from McConnell

 

doompatrol39

(428 posts)
33. Of course he will...
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:08 PM
Apr 2019

...but don't tell that to the Guardians of Discourse on here, who'd much rather attack people who might be slightly to the left for even the most milquetoast, mild criticisms of anyone in the Democratic party.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
4. Jesus Christ, what an asshole.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:24 AM
Apr 2019

Incidentally, he was also the only so-called Dem to vote for Rapey Brett. Sexual assault enablers of a feather stick together.

Did any of his constituents seriously want him to weigh in on this? What a totally pointless move.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
7. What value does it get him?
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:27 AM
Apr 2019

If anyone in West Virginia cares about Susan Collins, my guess is they hate her for not being conservative enough.

I dont get the value of this stunt.

delisen

(6,044 posts)
13. "I can work across the aisle" helps Susan pull
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:39 AM
Apr 2019

Democratic voters concerned about civility and cooperation in the Senate?

I don't think it will work for her this time though

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
15. Sure, it helps her...
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:45 AM
Apr 2019

... but why would he try to stay in the minority? I don't see how it helps him at all.

Hawaii Hiker

(3,166 posts)
10. This is what happens when one so badly craves attention
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:30 AM
Apr 2019

You do stupid fucking things like endorse a far right Republican like Susan Collins..

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
17. Gee, where did all the Manchin apologists go?
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:47 AM
Apr 2019

"But but but but but one more vote!! But but but but winning back the Senate!!"

He. Just. Literally. Endorsed. Susan. Fucking. Collins.

theaocp

(4,237 posts)
18. In all honesty, how should DU handle this?
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:00 PM
Apr 2019

You can't say what needs to be said. How is he a Democrat now?

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
38. This is an old article posted at least twice. Better to have a dem...as we need warm bodies to
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:51 PM
Apr 2019

Get the majority. And there is no chance of electing another Democratic senator in West Virginia.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
26. This means Manchin should be banned by DU.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 01:43 PM
Apr 2019

How on earth is reaching across the aisle to the right-wing fascists still a thing?

Response to riversedge (Original post)

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
40. My question is
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 04:11 PM
Apr 2019

Is he that valuable? He rarely ever votes with us. At least we would know who the enemy is.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
41. Yes he is that valuable because he is a vote for a majority...without which we get
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 04:18 PM
Apr 2019

no policy and no judges. Without him the ACA would be over ( my kid would be dead) for over a year, look at the Senate map for a dose of reality.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
42. I have friends that live in AOC's district...not happy about Amazon.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 04:22 PM
Apr 2019

Maybe she might want to concentrate on her own district. I like her and want to see her win reelection and not face a primary.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
43. I think that in the end it will prove that
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 04:35 PM
Apr 2019

it wasn't really the right place. Why not put it somewhere it would benefit the community; rather than the other way around. But hey, I don't live there and I hope she is able to work for her constituents and help steer the ship of state to the side of life.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
36. I see you left off the date...4/11/19.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:46 PM
Apr 2019

This was posted before. Without Manchin vote the ACA would be gone. This is deceptive. You left off the date. Check out the Senate map..no chance at majority without senators like Manchin.

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
45. If as many here say "at least he's a Democrat" .
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 05:28 PM
Apr 2019

he could have not endorsed anyone. He is a puke plain and simple.

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