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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts) Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:47 AM Apr 2019

John Bolton claims U.S. signed Kim's $2 million ransom demand for Otto Warmbier but never paid

Aaron Rupar
@atrupar

Wow -- John Bolton confirms US govt signed doc pledging to pay North Korea millions for Otto Warmbier's medical expenses, but says they never paid.

"So we signed a document fully intending not to honor it?" Chris Wallace asks.

"I don't know the circumstances," Bolton replies.

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John Bolton claims U.S. signed Kim's $2 million ransom demand for Otto Warmbier but never paid (Original Post) Miles Archer Apr 2019 OP

That's Dumpy's MO Ohiogal Apr 2019 #1

Skipping out on a bill... how Trump n/t sweetloukillbot Apr 2019 #2

"Here are the circumstances around this... I don't know the circumstances" ck4829 Apr 2019 #3

Right? shanti Apr 2019 #13

I find it equally plausible that they paid the no_hypocrisy Apr 2019 #4

+1 Their MO ok_cpu Apr 2019 #7

I think so, too. It's taxpayer's money and not 45's personal funds, Tanuki Apr 2019 #12

...and even if it was paid, i'd lie to you about it. nt BootinUp Apr 2019 #5

You can't believe a thing the US government says these days. walkingman Apr 2019 #6

Unless its under oath duforsure Apr 2019 #8

I defer to TheFerret's belief that not only would a bill not be signed... Hugin Apr 2019 #9

Un is not a happy camper . . . ergo Iliyah Apr 2019 #10

Whether they paid it or promised to pay and didn't is equally damning harumph Apr 2019 #11

Josh Marshall tweeted about this, too, and wrote an article for TPM. highplainsdem Apr 2019 #14

Ohiogal

(32,002 posts)

1. That's Dumpy's MO

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:49 AM

Apr 2019

Say you will pay and then don't. He's done it his whole life!

sweetloukillbot

(11,024 posts)

2. Skipping out on a bill... how Trump n/t

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:50 AM

Apr 2019

ck4829

(35,077 posts)

3. "Here are the circumstances around this... I don't know the circumstances"

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:54 AM

Apr 2019

shanti

(21,675 posts)

13. Right?

Reply to ck4829 (Reply #3)

Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:45 PM

Apr 2019

What kind of bs is that? No way in hell he doesn't know the details.

no_hypocrisy

(46,116 posts)

4. I find it equally plausible that they paid the

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:00 PM

Apr 2019

$2 million and are lying that they didn't.

ok_cpu

(2,051 posts)

7. +1 Their MO

Reply to no_hypocrisy (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:07 PM

Apr 2019

to mitigate when something is likely to be exposed is to have a surrogate tell half the truth.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)

12. I think so, too. It's taxpayer's money and not 45's personal funds,

Reply to no_hypocrisy (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:43 PM

Apr 2019

so he doesn't care. Either way, it's awful....he either paid a ransom, or made a pledge with no intention of honoring it, letting all the other nations know that he "negotiates" in bad faith (if they still had any doubt).

BootinUp

(47,154 posts)

5. ...and even if it was paid, i'd lie to you about it. nt

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:01 PM

Apr 2019

walkingman

(7,620 posts)

6. You can't believe a thing the US government says these days.

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:03 PM

Apr 2019

duforsure

(11,885 posts)

8. Unless its under oath

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:07 PM

Apr 2019

Its more propaganda from trump and his corrupt minions. even then many of them lie under oath too. Maybe they left a paper or records trail t was paid. Maybe NK will expose him and trump.

Hugin

(33,148 posts)

9. I defer to TheFerret's belief that not only would a bill not be signed...

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:18 PM

Apr 2019

But, Kim would still be picking bloody bits of it out of his stool under a legitimate administration led by HRC.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)

10. Un is not a happy camper . . . ergo

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:29 PM

Apr 2019

Putin's meeting.

This administration is corrupt. Mind you they were able to get Warmbier back to the USA wherein he at least died at home and hopefully knowing that his family was there with love and comfort. That was the upside.

Downside - more nuclear weapons . . .