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demmiblue

(36,855 posts)
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 07:40 PM Apr 2019

Thread: As a NICU nurse, I served on the "Bereavement Team." We were a special team of Nurses...




Thread: As a NICU nurse, I served on the “Bereavement Team.” We were a special team of Nurses tough enough to help new parents go through the worst day of their lives. Parents of babies who had fought so hard for their tiny little lives and weren’t going to make it... 1/

And parents of babies who, after they were born, and wouldn’t have their moms body keeping them alive, would die rather quickly. As these small bodies were failing, it was our job to be there with the parents at every step, give them support, and do our best to make some .../2

Memories of their precious babies that could help easy their impending and overwhelming grief. When heroic measures failed or a baby without a brain or working lungs or heart was born, we knew the end was near, and we encouraged the parents to be present in these finals moments/3

We placed the babies skin to skin with mom and placed a blanket over them both. We lowered the lights and quieted the room. We had as much or as little family and the parents wanted in the room. We sang songs, we prayed, we hugged, we swayed... and we all cried. 4/

I cried until my throat burned for this family who has just had to endure the unthinkable. We were in the moment with those families. We took pictures, even for the ones who were too traumatized to think they’d ever want to see them, just in case they did. We made footprints 5/

We put a lock of hair into a ribbon. We measured the babies length and marked it on a tape measure. We made special tiny white gowns and hats for our angels. We created a memory box for these families who were losing their child that day. 6/

So yes, there are those in hospitals who are around infants who pass: they are the Bereavement Teams & they provide the equivalent of neonatal hospice to families who are living through absolute Hell. Babies and children die, it’s a sad part of life. But no one, absolutely /7

NO ONE ever, in any hospital, nor any mother who has just given birth, is conspiring with a doctor on whether or not to commit infanticide. This is perhaps one of the sickest accusations levied by this deranged dictator yet. Don’t believe a word he says about anything important//

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Thread: As a NICU nurse, I served on the "Bereavement Team." We were a special team of Nurses... (Original Post) demmiblue Apr 2019 OP
Bless you for what you do, I'm typing this through the tears. blueinredohio Apr 2019 #1
He should be condemned nationally for this utter madness malaise Apr 2019 #2
I'm sorry. I'm truly sorry. Girard442 Apr 2019 #3
This is so beautiful and moving....... CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2019 #4
What do you expect from a man who "allowed" his present wife to have a baby... maddiemom Apr 2019 #32
He gave her two weeks to get in shape. secondwind Apr 2019 #38
If we had a decent media in this country, they would place bullwinkle428 Apr 2019 #5
Right? Why no headlines saying "White House has No Explanation for Trump's Bizarre Abortion Lie"? SunSeeker Apr 2019 #18
Important thread. Thank you. nt DesertRat Apr 2019 #6
My wife is a retired RN, and my stepdaughter runs the Family Birth Center Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #7
You and your wife are good people. demmiblue Apr 2019 #10
My warmest regards to your wife. IndyOp Apr 2019 #11
My wife spent 37 years in all aspects of critical care burn nursing and as part of the burn OR team Rural_Progressive Apr 2019 #29
You can donate wedding dresses TexasBushwhacker Apr 2019 #56
Thank you, I will pass that on. n/t Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #57
This story is the proof that this man/child will take anything apart, Grammy23 Apr 2019 #8
This time Trump has gone far beyond the pale,,, maddiemom Apr 2019 #33
I can't fathom how any sane citizen could possibly IndyOp Apr 2019 #9
They're not sane TrogL Apr 2019 #59
Personality Disorder combined with Dimensia.... Thunderbeast Apr 2019 #12
That explains him, but not his worshippers. Crunchy Frog Apr 2019 #31
I am sitting here weeping, and raging with anger at the same time. Dem2theMax Apr 2019 #13
I don't have the stomach to watch that video to verify he actually said that... Frustratedlady Apr 2019 #14
I think something nationally needs to be done about this montanacowboy Apr 2019 #15
"If this does not stir your conscience to something, nothing will" MadDAsHell Apr 2019 #25
We buried our first child, a beautiful baby boy. The nurses in the NICU were all that stood Still In Wisconsin Apr 2019 #16
I have family members who also have had experience with NICU nurses. demmiblue Apr 2019 #19
I am so sorry for your loss. smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #20
K & R SunSeeker Apr 2019 #17
He is a disgusting little man Lithos Apr 2019 #21
Actually what he is talking about, robbob Apr 2019 #52
Any neonatal nurse has hearbreaking stories NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #22
If people in general truly understood what goes on in the healthcare setting rustydog Apr 2019 #23
We Have a Vile and Twisted Monster for a President dlk Apr 2019 #24
Abortion is THE ISSUE that drives Republican votes. MadDAsHell Apr 2019 #26
What's just as appalling about what he said is that his cult followers actually believe him. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #27
I hope karma has something special in store for Diaper Donald Blue Owl Apr 2019 #28
We should be worried about the people who already believe this crap. plimsoll Apr 2019 #30
First, let me say that I, too, am moved by the stories shared here. Collimator Apr 2019 #34
NICU nurses are very special people shanti Apr 2019 #35
I am a pediatric hospice nurse and I agree! mucifer Apr 2019 #36
Thank you for your work! backtoblue Apr 2019 #40
I wish they'd had teams like this when my baby sister was born. TygrBright Apr 2019 #37
When I was two years old, murielm99 Apr 2019 #39
If only everyone understood what you're relating. Hortensis Apr 2019 #41
So sorry TygrBright. I also would have had an older sister but the same heart issue FailureToCommunicate Apr 2019 #46
NICU Dorian Gray Apr 2019 #42
the fetus humpers can't believe every baby is a gerber baby. pansypoo53219 Apr 2019 #43
Thank you to all NICU Yellowdog88 Apr 2019 #44
NCU nurses are proof that angels walk amongst us. Our twins came three MONTHS early and FailureToCommunicate Apr 2019 #45
Incrediblly Painful marieo1 Apr 2019 #47
Thanks, obviously this has never happened just another MF45 lie. loves_da_dems Apr 2019 #48
Um, if you're going to drop in to claim nurses are backing up tRumps story robbob Apr 2019 #53
What nurses are saying this? I'd appreciate a link. uppityperson Apr 2019 #58
Thank you ... kooth Apr 2019 #49
K and R...I did not read this yesterday..I read it just now. Last Paragrah says it all...nt Stuart G Apr 2019 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author matt819 Apr 2019 #51
LIE and it's why i hate him trueblue2007 Apr 2019 #54
Thank you for posting GeoWilliam750 Apr 2019 #55

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,627 posts)
4. This is so beautiful and moving.......
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 08:14 PM
Apr 2019

I've never suffered through the loss of a child, so I have really no idea how terrible this must be.

But I can imagine.

And that is something this deranged thing who occupies our White House could never do.

No empathy.

No sorrow.

No caring.

Nothing, nothing at all but the wish to demonize his opponents.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
32. What do you expect from a man who "allowed" his present wife to have a baby...
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:14 PM
Apr 2019

only if she promised she'd get her body back in shape quickly afterward? I know this is "hearsay" but it was reported from a number of sources at the time of Trump's candidacy, and it certainly sounds believable, all things considered. It must be very hard for Baron, who has nowhere near the "first kid" attention that most younger children of presidents usually get (and which might not be a bad thing) That, in turn, however, leads to speculation as to his intelligence. How unfair, whatever the truth. Just the occasional moment of "acting like a loving dad" is far beyond Trump, except when it comes to Ivanka. Marla seemed like a "homewrecker" at one time, but Tiffany may be the lucky one. She has the financial support, but obviously has to bear little "attention" from dear old dad. Meanwhile she seems to have interests and ambitions of her own, beyond a nominal college degree.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
5. If we had a decent media in this country, they would place
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 08:24 PM
Apr 2019

nurses like this front and center in nationally broadcast interviews to provide context and counterpoint to Mango Mussolini's batshit comments.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
7. My wife is a retired RN, and my stepdaughter runs the Family Birth Center
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 08:32 PM
Apr 2019

at our local hospital. Since retiring, my wife and I have taken up several hobbies. My wife makes quilts and we both volunteer at the hospital where our daughter works.

One day I noticed my wife sitting at her sewing machine making small quilts. They were too small to be baby blankets, but too large to be placemats, which she has also made. I asked her what they were and she said "Fetal Demise Blankets". She explained that when a baby does not survive birth, if the parents wish to have some time with the baby, they wrap the baby in one of these quilts. They can then keep the blanket as a keepsake if they wish.

I am so glad I married this woman. She's been retired for ten years, but she will be a Nurse until the day she dies.

demmiblue

(36,855 posts)
10. You and your wife are good people.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 08:37 PM
Apr 2019

Thank you for sharing... "she will be a Nurse until the day she dies."

Rural_Progressive

(1,105 posts)
29. My wife spent 37 years in all aspects of critical care burn nursing and as part of the burn OR team
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:23 PM
Apr 2019

so you know she has seen and dealt with all manner of horrific situations and dealt with families coming to grips with what their loved ones are going through.

As tough as the nursing she spent her professional life performing she takes her hat off to the nurses who work NICU and pediatric oncology.

I am also proud this amazing woman has spent 37 years with me sharing our lives together. Donnie O will never understand what she has done and the people whose lives she's touched and he will never have the peace and joy you and I have been blessed with in our lives with these remarkable women.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
8. This story is the proof that this man/child will take anything apart,
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 08:33 PM
Apr 2019

exploit the details (wrapping the baby in a blanket) and then twist it to his own cruel needs. He will stop at nothing to whip his base into a frenzy, even if he has to hurt people who are already hurting. There is nothing too low or off base for him. I hope there is a special place for him to rot for eternity.

IndyOp

(15,524 posts)
9. I can't fathom how any sane citizen could possibly
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 08:36 PM
Apr 2019

believe this - and yet they do. Do they think this is happening in the hospitals in their community?

Just the big cities? Just “abortionists” offices?

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
59. They're not sane
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 10:25 AM
Apr 2019

I’ve got my own mental issues so I’ve had to go through various sanity tests. You need to be able to demonstrate the ability to get from premises to conclusions without ending up down the rabbit hole.

These people can’t.

Dem2theMax

(9,651 posts)
13. I am sitting here weeping, and raging with anger at the same time.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 08:38 PM
Apr 2019

Bless the people who are there for all of these little babies and their families. They are angels on Earth.

As for Drumpf, may he rot in hell.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
14. I don't have the stomach to watch that video to verify he actually said that...
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 08:51 PM
Apr 2019

but I have no doubt the description is true. How could he say such a thing?

Thank you for your writing about what nurses do to comfort those who have lost a newborn. Your words are truly comforting to those of us who have not suffered through such a loss. It has to be so difficult for the parents to anticipate a new addition to their family for such a long period of time only to lose the child.

For this so-called president to utter such words is the most disgusting thing I have heard reported. Although I find it shocking that his followers absorb, accept and cheer most of what he says, I hope their reactions to those horrid words at that rally were not the norm.

What a disgusting individual.


montanacowboy

(6,089 posts)
15. I think something nationally needs to be done about this
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 08:53 PM
Apr 2019

I think all the news stations need to run some sort of program about this, some kind of a national push back on him, something big has to happen over this. Network execs and the press along with clergy etc. need to mount some kind of a national wake up call over these comments - he needs to be shamed on every TV set, every radio, every cable and network station, in the streets, in the workplace in the churches.

This madness MUST Stop. American people wake up! If this does not stir your conscience to something, nothing will and you are just as dead as he is. We can't let this pass. This is the end of the line.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
25. "If this does not stir your conscience to something, nothing will"
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:11 PM
Apr 2019

Ironically the anti-choicers use aborted fetus pictures along with almost identical language to yours to argue the anti-choice perspective.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
16. We buried our first child, a beautiful baby boy. The nurses in the NICU were all that stood
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 08:53 PM
Apr 2019

between my wife and I, collectively, and insanity. They lovingly got imprints of his little feet and hands. They clipped locks of his curly black hair (yes, he had a LOT of hair!). They held us as we held him. God bless you, labor and delivery and NICU nurses, for everything you do. Especially, for caring for families on the worst day of their lives.

demmiblue

(36,855 posts)
19. I have family members who also have had experience with NICU nurses.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 09:05 PM
Apr 2019

The work they do is priceless. Every year, the nurses and doctors have a reunion for the NICU babies who survived.

I am sorry for your loss.

(The Twitter thread is not by me)

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. I am so sorry for your loss.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 09:18 PM
Apr 2019

That is so very sad and the nurses deserve all the praise they can get for what they do. I hate this man for making light of such tragedies for political purposes. It is disgraceful.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
21. He is a disgusting little man
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 09:27 PM
Apr 2019

This prays upon the fragile memories of those who have had to lose a baby in such circumstances.

No hospital practices inhumanity like this.

L-

robbob

(3,531 posts)
52. Actually what he is talking about,
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 01:29 PM
Apr 2019

As evidenced by the touching stories on this thread, is humanity at its finest. What’s really sick is how he takes that and perverts and twists it to enrage his brain dead followers.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
22. Any neonatal nurse has hearbreaking stories
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 09:32 PM
Apr 2019

and Donald Trump blames the mother and the doctor. There are no words in the English language to adequately describe how evil that man is.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
23. If people in general truly understood what goes on in the healthcare setting
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:01 PM
Apr 2019

it would be so much easier to call out Trump and the far Reich -wing's hateful lies and bullshit

I am not clinical but I have worked healthcare security for 40 years. I had performed CPR on 5 infants who did not make it. I've escorted staff taking infant corpses to the morgue to await the funeral home.
It is horrible.

I worked with an RN friend who would carry the deceased infants to the morgue, not pushed on a cart. She held them lovingly and tearfully as we took the baby to the morgue.
You did not think of touching her after completing the task as she was so deeply grieving for the innocent loss. After an hour or so, you could touch and talk to her.

How can Trump and his hateful excuses for human beings be so cruel and heartless over the tragic death of a newborn?

dlk

(11,566 posts)
24. We Have a Vile and Twisted Monster for a President
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:06 PM
Apr 2019

The lies and filth that spew from his mouth are unconscionable!

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
26. Abortion is THE ISSUE that drives Republican votes.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:13 PM
Apr 2019

Something like forty percent of women are anti-choice; that is the ONLY thing giving Republicans any female votes.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
27. What's just as appalling about what he said is that his cult followers actually believe him.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:16 PM
Apr 2019

And he's inciting violence against Planned Parenthood clinics and doctors.

plimsoll

(1,670 posts)
30. We should be worried about the people who already believe this crap.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:32 PM
Apr 2019

Trump doesn't originate the crap he spouts, he plays it back to the people who already believe this stuff.

I've lived through a still birth. I know I would have been charged with assault if someone had ever said this to me, but I also know that there are simpletons who believe this. Trump isn't an originator, he's an amplifier.

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
34. First, let me say that I, too, am moved by the stories shared here.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:29 PM
Apr 2019

However, I wish to make a counterpoint to one statement in the essay posted.

" Don’t believe a word he says about anything important. "

I have no argument to make with the wisdom of the sentence above, but it's important to remember that Trump lies about everything. He makes statements about things that are relatively unimportant in the great scheme of things that are untrue and easily disputed. When he lies about something important, said lie is even more calculated and cynical and deliberately self-serving.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
35. NICU nurses are very special people
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:34 PM
Apr 2019

Mother was an RN in NICU for many years, mostly caring for children with cancer and such, but also neonates.

backtoblue

(11,343 posts)
40. Thank you for your work!
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 12:37 AM
Apr 2019

I worked very close with nurses at my local ER. (Retired mortician)

You folks are angels and probably the only other folks who truly know what families go through losing a baby. Holding a tiny lifeless body is something that never leaves your soul. Their little bodies are sometimes in such unimaginable conditions that are both heartbreaking and disturbing.

The local nurses have special blankets and clothing that they put the babies in for transport to the funeral home. They are so kind and gentle with both the babies and the grieving parents. We've shared alot of tears together over the years.











TygrBright

(20,760 posts)
37. I wish they'd had teams like this when my baby sister was born.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:52 PM
Apr 2019

I never even saw her.

She was born with a deformed heart, walls between the chambers only partially formed.

I was a kid, and they didn't allow kids to visit in OB wards back then.

They didn't even allow Dad in until she was already gone.

That's not the only reason my parents' marriage failed but it was certainly a contributing factor.

My sister was born.

The nurse baptized her.

She died.

My mother has carried the grief since. She is 89 years old, now. If my sister had lived she would be fifty-six now. Mom still talks about her from time to time.

I would have liked to have a baby sister. I was so looking forward to that.

When Mom came home without the baby I was confused and sad.

People didn't talk about such things much in our family back then. Stiff upper lip and get on with the job, yanno.

But she is not forgotten. She was my sister, and she is missed.

How unimaginably cruel do you have to be to mong this kind of fear?

sadly,
Bright

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
39. When I was two years old,
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 12:25 AM
Apr 2019

my mother had a baby boy. He never came home from the hospital. He died shortly after he was born. His name was Jay.

My mother became too depressed to take care of me or herself. My dad, who was only twenty-three, took a second job to pay for the funeral and for my mother's psychiatric care. He gave me away to family friends because I was so neglected.

My mother began to recover somewhat by the time I was four. She had had another baby. We were living on my dad's family farm where my grandmother was helping a lot by caring for me and my new baby brother. My mother was under orders from her psychiatrist to spend a certain amount of time with me daily in order to bond with me and build a relationship. It never worked out that well. We were never friends or fond of each other. That crucial early time was lost to her depression and grief.

My mother is ninety. She still grieves for Jay.

Trump is a monster. He has no idea how an infant death harms a family.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
46. So sorry TygrBright. I also would have had an older sister but the same heart issue
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 09:13 AM
Apr 2019

you spoke of meant she never "thrived". After a few weeks Tanya passed away. My mother was so heartbroken, it took a long time, and me being born, to begin healing some of her loss. She, or my father, rarely spoke of her, even as they reached their nineties. It was still just too painful for them.

Trump, or anyone that lapped up his crap, has no idea.

Yellowdog88

(66 posts)
44. Thank you to all NICU
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 08:43 AM
Apr 2019

This thread hits so close to home, if for just our brief glance at the indescribable pain that can come from expecting a healthy child to be thrust so quickly when one is not.

Our son born 14 years ago arrived with underdeveloped lungs and came about 3 weeks early. It was surreal to have the staff suddenly go quiet into motion when there were no cries. The swept him and me away to another room where they told me what was happening. To them nomal, for me terror.

We saw the unthinkable and made it through with their professionalism and the compassion. Fortunately, it was a rather common problem that needed a week to clear up. In that week of visiting our son daily, we saw the babies that would not make it or didn't have anyone visiting. In those cases, the NICU staff was there for the little ones.

Thank you to your profession and all that goes with it. To be so wantonly cast by this unknowing sloth burns so hot for me.

#NICUheroes

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
45. NCU nurses are proof that angels walk amongst us. Our twins came three MONTHS early and
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 09:04 AM
Apr 2019

every day, for most of two months we were in the NICU, we witnessed miracles of care, joy, and unbearable sorrow, all comforted by nurses with professionalism and limitless compassion.

What Trump claims, to his dimented followers, would NEVER happen. Evil evil "man" that he is.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
47. Incrediblly Painful
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 10:20 AM
Apr 2019

I have had 3 adult children - lost my oldest 4 years ago. I also have lost 3 babies - DJT has never given birth and has no clue how bad most mothers want a child and how incredibly painful it is to lose a baby. Why is that ignorant DJT even making comments about mothers and their babies, what business is it of his? He interjects himself into every aspect of our own personal lives and apparently, some ignorant people support that behavior. DJT acts like he is GOD!!! Oh, how I hope and pray someone with some power will put a stop to him NOW. He and a lot of others that go along with this unlawful behavior need to be in jail. Another thought, you know DJT could give a hoot less about our babies and their lives, he is just saying what some sicko's has told him to say!!

 

loves_da_dems

(67 posts)
48. Thanks, obviously this has never happened just another MF45 lie.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 12:06 PM
Apr 2019

But why are some nurses apparently lying about this? I wont like to any stories, but they're a bunch of saying that's what happened.

robbob

(3,531 posts)
53. Um, if you're going to drop in to claim nurses are backing up tRumps story
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 01:37 PM
Apr 2019

Then maybe you SHOULD provide a link? Just a suggestion...

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
58. What nurses are saying this? I'd appreciate a link.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 10:19 PM
Apr 2019

There are rw extremist nurses, I'd like to see who is agreeing that this ever happens.

Thank you.

kooth

(219 posts)
49. Thank you ...
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 12:45 PM
Apr 2019

Your post brought home the side of birth that I had rarely considered. The love and compassion you all show is the bedrock of what it means to be human.

Thank you so much for your dedication to what has got to be one of the hardest jobs there ever was. I'm sure each and every family were greatly comforted by your thoughtless efforts.

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