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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts) Mon Apr 29, 2019, 11:47 PM Apr 2019

Ted Lieu: If Barr doesn't appear, we're going to enforce a subpoena and hold him in contempt

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Democratic Rep. Ted Lieu says if Attorney General Bill Barr doesn't appear before the House Judiciary Committee, "then we're going to enforce a subpoena and we're going to hold him in contempt" (link: https://cnn.it/2Y06di1) cnn.it/2Y06di1

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Ted Lieu: If Barr doesn't appear, we're going to enforce a subpoena and hold him in contempt (Original Post) Miles Archer Apr 2019 OP

You gotta do what you gotta do. dchill Apr 2019 #1

I'll hold you to it Ted ProudLib72 Apr 2019 #2

.... and that means what? uponit7771 Apr 2019 #3

Subpoenas are like farts in a windstorm. Stinky The Clown Apr 2019 #4

But an attorney can be disbarred for contempt. That's a deal breaker for AG. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #17

You say that as if someone will enforce it. Who would that be? Stinky The Clown Apr 2019 #18

The American Bar Association ehrnst Apr 2019 #19

The ABA does not discipline/disbar lawyers or judges and has no authority to do so madville Apr 2019 #25

Thank you again. I now remember friends of mine in DC discussing the complaint ehrnst May 2019 #31

Sorry, but no, not the ABA Stinky The Clown Apr 2019 #28

And then send him a nasty letter, or... PoliticAverse Apr 2019 #5

Since Congress has the Power of the Purse... appal_jack Apr 2019 #12

Just a remembrance. I worked in a group that pissed-off our Republican overlords. NCjack Apr 2019 #27

Judiciary: "So, Mr. Barr, you've decided not to honor our subpoena? Well, then, we... DontBooVote Apr 2019 #6

A lawyer who violates a subpoena can be disbarred.(nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #20

That will be on your permanent record, Mr Barr world wide wally Apr 2019 #7

I'm guessing he's neither impressed, nor distressed :P (nt) mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #10

A lot of dumb mean comments here. Our constitution left them little power against traitors C Moon Apr 2019 #8

Totally Agree!! WA-03 Democrat Apr 2019 #9

X 2 pazzyanne Apr 2019 #11

I agree. we can do it Apr 2019 #13

Completely agree. SlogginThroughIt Apr 2019 #14

The Constitution left a president with little power but look where we are. Also, how do you DontBooVote Apr 2019 #15

I meant the constitution left THE CONGRESS little to work with for traitors like Trumputin. C Moon May 2019 #29

If he violates a subpoena, he could be disbarred. And an AG must be a lawyer. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #16

There is no requirement that AG be a lawyer, just that he be confirmed by the Senate. tritsofme Apr 2019 #21

I think it would be a very hard sell to keep a disbarred lawyer in that position. ehrnst Apr 2019 #22

That's a different argument, just pointing out there is no such requirement. tritsofme Apr 2019 #23

True - it's one of those assumptions that one makes using common sense. ehrnst Apr 2019 #24

Eric Holder was held in contempt of Congress madville Apr 2019 #26

Nothing did. former9thward May 2019 #33

If William Barr refuses to testify, he should be impeached dalton99a May 2019 #30

They absolutely have to do this and not back down. It's time to stop the games. Vinca May 2019 #32

dchill

(38,537 posts)

1. You gotta do what you gotta do.

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 11:49 PM

Apr 2019

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)

2. I'll hold you to it Ted

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 11:50 PM

Apr 2019

Talk is cheap.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)

3. .... and that means what?

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 11:51 PM

Apr 2019

Stinky The Clown

(67,818 posts)

4. Subpoenas are like farts in a windstorm.

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Mon Apr 29, 2019, 11:56 PM

Apr 2019

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/congresss-subpoena-power-is-not-what-it-used-to-be/2019/04/03/cf32e1de-5638-11e9-8ef3-fbd41a2ce4d5_story.html?utm_term=.806d5c210674

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

17. But an attorney can be disbarred for contempt. That's a deal breaker for AG. (nt)

Reply to Stinky The Clown (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 09:48 AM

Apr 2019

Stinky The Clown

(67,818 posts)

18. You say that as if someone will enforce it. Who would that be?

Reply to ehrnst (Reply #17)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 04:39 PM

Apr 2019

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

19. The American Bar Association

Reply to Stinky The Clown (Reply #18)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:21 PM

Apr 2019

which has no love lost for the Trump Administration ignoring their evaluation of the nominees in Judiciary nomination process.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/trump-picks-more-not-qualified-judges-than-predecessors

madville

(7,412 posts)

25. The ABA does not discipline/disbar lawyers or judges and has no authority to do so

Reply to ehrnst (Reply #19)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 06:40 PM

Apr 2019

It would be up to the State bar associations where he has a law license and/or is a member of that specific state bar association.

Straight from their website:

Does the ABA discipline lawyers?

No. The ABA is not a lawyer disciplinary agency and has no authority to investigate or act upon complaints filed against lawyers. Each state has its own agency that performs that function in regard to lawyers practicing in that state.

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

31. Thank you again. I now remember friends of mine in DC discussing the complaint

Reply to madville (Reply #25)

Wed May 1, 2019, 07:31 AM

May 2019

against Kelleyanne to the DC Court of Appeals for unprofessional conduct.

Stinky The Clown

(67,818 posts)

28. Sorry, but no, not the ABA

Reply to ehrnst (Reply #19)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 08:31 PM

Apr 2019

Disbarring him will be a very heavy lift

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)

5. And then send him a nasty letter, or...

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 12:01 AM

Apr 2019

direct the sergeant at arms to arrest him?

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)

12. Since Congress has the Power of the Purse...

Reply to PoliticAverse (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 07:26 AM

Apr 2019

... and the Sergeant at Arms lacks much real enforcement power, I'm thinking private Bounty Hunters could be a good option?

-app

NCjack

(10,279 posts)

27. Just a remembrance. I worked in a group that pissed-off our Republican overlords.

Reply to appal_jack (Reply #12)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 08:22 PM

Apr 2019

They took away our cleaning service. In a month, the carpet became encrusted with soil and filth, and next came its odor. By the time someone thought to bring in a personal vacuum cleaner and try to clean the carpet, it was too late. That stuff got as hard as adobe. A quarter would bounce off it. We brought in our hand soap, paper towels, and toilet paper because we expected any day they would stop providing that. But, they either didn't think of it, or they extended a small mercy.

DontBooVote

(901 posts)

6. Judiciary: "So, Mr. Barr, you've decided not to honor our subpoena? Well, then, we...

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 12:08 AM

Apr 2019

...regret to inform you that we have nothing but contempt for you, sir!"

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

20. A lawyer who violates a subpoena can be disbarred.(nt)

Reply to DontBooVote (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:22 PM

Apr 2019

world wide wally

(21,755 posts)

7. That will be on your permanent record, Mr Barr

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 01:08 AM

Apr 2019

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)

10. I'm guessing he's neither impressed, nor distressed :P (nt)

Reply to world wide wally (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:15 AM

Apr 2019

C Moon

(12,221 posts)

8. A lot of dumb mean comments here. Our constitution left them little power against traitors

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:12 AM

Apr 2019

who flagrantly break the laws, and yet are find holes in our system so they can continue as such.
You all are echoing the exact same thing Trump and Fox "News" are saying.
More than EVER, you need to support our elected Dems.
C'mon DU!!!

WA-03 Democrat

(3,055 posts)

9. Totally Agree!!

Reply to C Moon (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:15 AM

Apr 2019

pazzyanne

(6,557 posts)

11. X 2

Reply to C Moon (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:27 AM

Apr 2019

we can do it

(12,194 posts)

13. I agree.

Reply to C Moon (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 09:26 AM

Apr 2019

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)

14. Completely agree.

Reply to C Moon (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 09:32 AM

Apr 2019

I am mot sure what some of these people want Democrats to do? Tired of reading the party bashing going on here.

DontBooVote

(901 posts)

15. The Constitution left a president with little power but look where we are. Also, how do you

Reply to C Moon (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 09:45 AM

Apr 2019

know the exact rhetoric that Fox "News" is saying?

C Moon

(12,221 posts)

29. I meant the constitution left THE CONGRESS little to work with for traitors like Trumputin.

Reply to DontBooVote (Reply #15)

Wed May 1, 2019, 01:07 AM

May 2019

TrumPutin is ignoring every law without fear of being prosecuted because the senate is owned by a turtle.

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

16. If he violates a subpoena, he could be disbarred. And an AG must be a lawyer. (nt)

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 09:46 AM

Apr 2019

tritsofme

(17,399 posts)

21. There is no requirement that AG be a lawyer, just that he be confirmed by the Senate.

Reply to ehrnst (Reply #16)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:25 PM

Apr 2019

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

22. I think it would be a very hard sell to keep a disbarred lawyer in that position.

Reply to tritsofme (Reply #21)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 06:03 PM

Apr 2019

After all, DT did appoint a lawyer in current standing to begin with, and not Ivanka, didn't he?

tritsofme

(17,399 posts)

23. That's a different argument, just pointing out there is no such requirement.

Reply to ehrnst (Reply #22)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 06:16 PM

Apr 2019

The politics would obviously be terrible.

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

24. True - it's one of those assumptions that one makes using common sense.

Reply to tritsofme (Reply #23)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 06:21 PM

Apr 2019

I stand corrected.

madville

(7,412 posts)

26. Eric Holder was held in contempt of Congress

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Apr 30, 2019, 06:42 PM

Apr 2019

Over the Fast and Furious operation and I don't really remember anything that bad coming from it.

former9thward

(32,082 posts)

33. Nothing did.

Reply to madville (Reply #26)

Wed May 1, 2019, 10:42 AM

May 2019

The Obama administration appealed the case until they were out of office. The Trump DOJ settled it by giving Congress a few the documents being requested.

dalton99a

(81,590 posts)

30. If William Barr refuses to testify, he should be impeached

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed May 1, 2019, 01:23 AM

May 2019

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/04/30/barr-if-he-refuses-come-impeach-him/
If William Barr refuses to testify, he should be impeached
By Jennifer Rubin
April 30 at 9:45 AM

Vinca

(50,304 posts)

32. They absolutely have to do this and not back down. It's time to stop the games.

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Wed May 1, 2019, 07:53 AM

May 2019

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