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orangecrush

(19,571 posts)
Thu May 2, 2019, 10:36 AM May 2019

Emails show Trump admin had 'no way to link' separated migrant children to parents


May 1, 2019, 7:29 PM EDT / Updated May 1, 2019, 7:30 PM EDT
By Jacob Soboroff
LOS ANGELES — On the same day the Trump administration said it would reunite thousands of migrant families it had separated at the border with the help of a "central database," an official was admitting privately the government only had enough information to reconnect 60 parents with their kids, according to emails obtained by NBC News.

"n short, no, we do not have any linkages from parents to [children], save for a handful," a Health and Human Services official told a top official at Immigration and Customs Enforcement on June 23, 2018. "We have a list of parent alien numbers but no way to link them to children."


In the absence of an effective database, the emails show, officials then began scrambling to fill out a simple spreadsheet with data in hopes of reuniting as many as families as they could.

Click here and here to read the emails.

The gaps in the system for tracking separations would result in a months-long effort to reunite nearly 3,000 families separated under the administration's "zero tolerance" policy. Officials had to review all the relevant records manually, a process that continues.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/emails-show-trump-admin-had-no-way-link-separated-migrant-n1000746
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Emails show Trump admin had 'no way to link' separated migrant children to parents (Original Post) orangecrush May 2019 OP
Trying to reunite them will cost tens of thousands Ilsa May 2019 #1
And a huge privacy violation zaj May 2019 #4
Yeah. They'll have a new database of DNA Ilsa May 2019 #5
These are crimes against humanity malaise May 2019 #2
Criminal... Someone at the top of this needs to face charges zaj May 2019 #3
This would be such a simple thing Clarity2 May 2019 #6
I've thought so the whole time. Purposely. notdarkyet May 2019 #9
I agree with you pandr32 May 2019 #10
One day there will be a reckoning C_U_L8R May 2019 #7
this is arguably genocide; certainly getting very close to it: unblock May 2019 #8

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
1. Trying to reunite them will cost tens of thousands
Thu May 2, 2019, 10:38 AM
May 2019

of dollars in DNA testing. Not that donald dipshit cares.

Clarity2

(1,009 posts)
6. This would be such a simple thing
Thu May 2, 2019, 10:44 AM
May 2019

A novice could keep track with a simple database. Which means it was done purposely, and for nefarious reasons. 😡

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
7. One day there will be a reckoning
Thu May 2, 2019, 10:50 AM
May 2019

And these Trump stooges will pay for their crimes against children and their families.

unblock

(52,243 posts)
8. this is arguably genocide; certainly getting very close to it:
Thu May 2, 2019, 10:50 AM
May 2019
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

Definition
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Elements of the crime
The Genocide Convention establishes in Article I that the crime of genocide may take place in the context of an armed conflict, international or non-international, but also in the context of a peaceful situation. The latter is less common but still possible. The same article establishes the obligation of the contracting parties to prevent and to punish the crime of genocide.

The popular understanding of what constitutes genocide tends to be broader than the content of the norm under international law. Article II of the Genocide Convention contains a narrow definition of the crime of genocide, which includes two main elements:

A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and
A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively:
Killing members of the group
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
The intent is the most difficult element to determine. To constitute genocide, there must be a proven intent on the part of perpetrators to physically destroy a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. Cultural destruction does not suffice, nor does an intention to simply disperse a group. It is this special intent, or dolus specialis, that makes the crime of genocide so unique. In addition, case law has associated intent with the existence of a State or organizational plan or policy, even if the definition of genocide in international law does not include that element.

Importantly, the victims of genocide are deliberately targeted - not randomly – because of their real or perceived membership of one of the four groups protected under the Convention (which excludes political groups, for example). This means that the target of destruction must be the group, as such, and not its members as individuals. Genocide can also be committed against only a part of the group, as long as that part is identifiable (including within a geographically limited area) and “substantial.”
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