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malaise

(269,144 posts)
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 07:05 PM Aug 2012

There should be a state funeral for Neil Armstrong





"That's one small step for (a) man, one giant leap for mankind."

An estimated 500 million people watched the grainy black and white broadcast that showed Armstrong, clad in a white space suit, step gingerly on to the moon's desolate surface.

As commander of the Apollo 11 mission, it was also Armstrong who had notified mission control of the module's successful landing. "Houston, Tranquility base here. The Eagle has landed," he said.

Joined by fellow astronaut Buzz Aldrin, Armstrong spent about two and a half hours exploring the landscape around the landing site, describing the surface as being like powdered charcoa


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There should be a state funeral for Neil Armstrong (Original Post) malaise Aug 2012 OP
If anyone deserves it it's Armstrong lunatica Aug 2012 #1
He's a genuine hero malaise Aug 2012 #2
absolutely....recommended spanone Aug 2012 #3
He certainly deserves one............But it would not be in keeping with the man himself....... Burma Jones Aug 2012 #4
Let his family decline the offer n/t malaise Aug 2012 #9
Sure...... Burma Jones Aug 2012 #38
yes backwoodsbob Aug 2012 #5
He Would deserve it but i don't think it's something he would want JI7 Aug 2012 #6
That was my thought too. :( Care Acutely Aug 2012 #46
no doubt about it - a hero DrDan Aug 2012 #7
Agreed. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #8
Are the flags at half mast? DonRedwood Aug 2012 #10
His alma mater (Purdue) is apparently doing it BumRushDaShow Aug 2012 #12
I'm sure he would not have wanted that jberryhill Aug 2012 #11
I can't think of anything less controversial... Ron Obvious Aug 2012 #13
There was so much promise that day malaise Aug 2012 #15
It would have been the LAST thing Neil Armstrong would have wanted. madinmaryland Aug 2012 #14
That might be true... Deep13 Aug 2012 #24
Of course they are obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #25
Why is that a matter of course? nt Deep13 Aug 2012 #42
would you not want your family... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2012 #34
Circular questions... Deep13 Aug 2012 #41
The man lead a very private life... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2012 #43
But you agree that the wishes of the deceased are not ALWAYS controlling. Deep13 Aug 2012 #44
I believe so. Cleita Aug 2012 #16
He would not want one. WinkyDink Aug 2012 #17
A true hero for the whole world jsr Aug 2012 #18
He was one of the greatest human beings. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #19
Lovely malaise Aug 2012 #27
Incredible. n/t Beartracks Aug 2012 #31
K&R Rowdyboy Aug 2012 #20
Neil wouldn't have wanted one...but I'm guessing the Republiban will shit-talk if it doesn't happen Ken Burch Aug 2012 #21
I am sure there is a way of honoring him that wouldn't contradict his personal ethos. n/t demmiblue Aug 2012 #22
Here's what Neil would want... roamer65 Aug 2012 #23
A national holiday every July 2oth. 1620rock Aug 2012 #26
Well President Obama needs to say it was offered and refused malaise Aug 2012 #28
And then, TO MARS! TO MARS! Odin2005 Aug 2012 #33
If you have read his Bio or much about him you would know..... Logical Aug 2012 #29
He wouldn't want one. And that's exactly why he deserves it. NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #30
I'm with you re his wishes malaise Aug 2012 #32
While I do agree that he deserves a state funeral I avebury Aug 2012 #35
Neil was a very private man and as such his and his family's wishes should be respected ......... Botany Aug 2012 #36
An icon of what humans can do if we set our sights high CrispyQ Aug 2012 #37
Nice post malaise Aug 2012 #39
Kicky, kicky. Scuba Aug 2012 #40
+1 HiPointDem Aug 2012 #45

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
1. If anyone deserves it it's Armstrong
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 07:07 PM
Aug 2012

All the first astronauts do. They had no way of knowing if they'd live through any of it.

Burma Jones

(11,760 posts)
4. He certainly deserves one............But it would not be in keeping with the man himself.......
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 07:15 PM
Aug 2012

Flags at Half Staff though.......and a day of mourning perhaps..it would be during the Republican Convention though, so it would become about squawking heads and their bloated opinions rather than the respect that the man earned.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
11. I'm sure he would not have wanted that
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 07:28 PM
Aug 2012

...and it is likely he left explicit and humble instructions.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
13. I can't think of anything less controversial...
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 07:32 PM
Aug 2012

It's up to his family, of course, but I can't think of anything less controversial than a state funeral for this genuine hero.

While I'm here, can I share what - to me - where the words that thrilled me to bits that day in 1969, and which have moved to tears ever since?

No, it wasn't that bit about the small step and the giant leap and all that...

It was:

"The Eagle has landed"

I'm choking up, even now...

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
41. Circular questions...
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 05:05 PM
Aug 2012

...if they were my wishes, of course I would. That does not mean my wishes should necessarily be controlling. Suppose my last wish was to liquidate the family estate to build an expensive mausoleum to my memory? Is that really the best use of what were lately my assets?

Armstrong, whether he likes it or not, is a global icon. The country and the world need for him to lie in state.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
43. The man lead a very private life...
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 05:38 PM
Aug 2012

if he and his family want his death to be private, then it should remain private. Wanting privacy and liquidated your estate to screw your family are two different kettle of fish.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
44. But you agree that the wishes of the deceased are not ALWAYS controlling.
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 11:10 PM
Aug 2012

I know he led a private life and most of us respected that. Hell, I didn't even ask to shake his hand when I saw him in a concert hallway once, but I knew he would not welcome the recognition. Still, in 1000 years no one will know who Barack Obama was, but they will remember Neil Armstrong, the first human to walk on another celestial body. If this were pre-modern times, we would deify him and write sagas that exaggerate his deeds to superhuman levels. His life belonged to himself. His memory belongs to the world.

Anyway, it's not like any of us have any real say in the matter.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
16. I believe so.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 07:44 PM
Aug 2012

He and the other astronauts deserve it for their going where no man had gone before. They certainly deserve it more than Reagan did, who has done more to destroy this country than any President before him.

jsr

(7,712 posts)
18. A true hero for the whole world
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:20 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Sun Aug 26, 2012, 10:27 PM - Edit history (1)

It still boggles the mind what he did. But he was so humble and unassuming many people didn't recognize him in public.




Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
19. He was one of the greatest human beings.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:22 PM
Aug 2012

"A scientific colleague tells me about a recent trip to the New Guinea highlands where she visited a stone age culture hardly contacted by Western civilization. They were ignorant of wristwatches, soft drinks, and frozen food. But they knew about Apollo 11. They knew that humans had walked on the Moon. They knew the names of Armstrong and Aldrin and Collins. They wanted to know who was visiting the Moon these days."

-Carl Sagan.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
21. Neil wouldn't have wanted one...but I'm guessing the Republiban will shit-talk if it doesn't happen
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:24 PM
Aug 2012

They'll probably claim that Obama refused to have one on the explicit instructions of the AQ or Hugo Chavez or something.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
23. Here's what Neil would want...
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:47 PM
Aug 2012

we need to go back to the Moon and then go to Mars. We should be back on the Moon in July 2019 for the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11.

Godspeed Neil!

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
29. If you have read his Bio or much about him you would know.....
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:11 PM
Aug 2012

This is the last thing he wanted. He would tell you many thousands of men and women worked many more hours than him to make the moon landing possible. And he was irritated by people who did not know that already.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
30. He wouldn't want one. And that's exactly why he deserves it.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:19 PM
Aug 2012

(Deserves it, but his wishes should absolutely be respected.)

avebury

(10,952 posts)
35. While I do agree that he deserves a state funeral I
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 10:10 PM
Aug 2012

do believe that is what he would wish. He was a very humble person. Honoring his wishes it what is really important. Maybe a more fitting tribute would be setting up a scholarship program that would exist to encourage young people who wanted to study a field relating to the aerospace industry. Or the people could come up with something else. Just an idea.

Botany

(70,551 posts)
36. Neil was a very private man and as such his and his family's wishes should be respected .........
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 10:13 PM
Aug 2012

..... When he was a professor @ U.C. he went out of his way to be just that a teacher
of math and engineering and he had no time for students/faculty/others who wanted to
"gawk at him." Mr. Armstrong is a son of Ohio and the midwest and his roots were in
doing good instead of looking good and those roots go way beyond politics, money, and
show he was truly part of the greatest generation.

He died here in Columbus, OH yesterday but nobody* in Columbus knew he was here or in what
hospital either. Neil Armstrong up until the end was a private man.**

* outside of family and hospital staff.

** To see the public Neil visit his Museum in Wapakoneta, OH or the Smithsonian in DC.

CrispyQ

(36,492 posts)
37. An icon of what humans can do if we set our sights high
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 10:17 PM
Aug 2012

& commit to the hard work it takes to get there.

We have rested on our laurels for a very long time & neglected to take care of that which takes care of us (Earth) & are about to be slapped down a peg or two.

Wish I had responded to the thread about where we could have been if we had followed through on the space program instead of endless war. Such a squandering.

That is this century's human legacy . . . a squandering. A squandering of resources. A squandering of potential. A squandering of opportunity. A squandering of time. Precious time.

All for the profit of a few.

on edit: A tee shirt I saw & liked:

Earth without Art is just Eh.

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