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"According to the Bible..." (Warning: brain cramp ahead) (for some) (Original Post) WilliamPitt Aug 2012 OP
You of little faith nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #1
Second "of" needs to go otherwise it is perfect. n/t 2on2u Aug 2012 #2
careful Will warrior1 Aug 2012 #3
So, you mean Cain was able? n/t socialindependocrat Aug 2012 #4
Sorry, it doesn't work... brooklynite Aug 2012 #5
LOL SmileyRose Aug 2012 #19
2 + 2 = 5 blkmusclmachine Aug 2012 #6
It's Cain and Isabel, not Cain and Abel! Oh wait... it is Cain and Abel. cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #7
No expert, so I looked it up. Robb Aug 2012 #8
Two Men? sarcasmo Aug 2012 #9
Genesis 4:16, And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, needledriver Aug 2012 #10
Actually, if I remember correctly, NashvilleLefty Aug 2012 #11
after King Solomon, Israel split into two kingdoms johnnypneumatic Aug 2012 #13
AND there was an effort to reconcile the two NashvilleLefty Aug 2012 #14
metaphor: bhikkhu Aug 2012 #18
So, The Bible Is Lot Like The TV Show, "Lost" Yavin4 Aug 2012 #20
Best explanation of the Bible EVER. lol Booster Aug 2012 #28
There are 2 creation stories in the OT. xchrom Aug 2012 #12
Cain? johnnypneumatic Aug 2012 #15
LOL! Welcome to Du ! nt snappyturtle Aug 2012 #33
Chick-Fil-H8 _Liann_ Aug 2012 #16
You're trying to apply logic when noone should be mindwalker_i Aug 2012 #17
I've always wondered about that. Rhiannon12866 Aug 2012 #21
What was happening before God created anything? Jack Sprat Aug 2012 #22
While I get your point and..... DeSwiss Aug 2012 #23
What will really cook your noodle DearAbby Aug 2012 #24
For God to have destroyed all of Creation in a flood, it would have to have been 9,000 meters deep. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #35
Genesis implies that Nod was populated. Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #25
Fix that send "of" and I'll post that. n/t brewens Aug 2012 #26
My one question GP6971 Aug 2012 #27
Why Don't Bees Go to Heaven? HarveyDarkey Aug 2012 #30
Sigmund Freud & Ludwig Feuerbach. Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2012 #31
I can tkmorris Aug 2012 #36
Adam and Eve had three sons, Cain, Abel, and Seth. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #29
Yeap, tons of incest ...not a sin at the time uponit7771 Aug 2012 #32
The real real reason for Cain killing Abel Tyrs WolfDaemon Aug 2012 #34
Pure awesome Hydra Aug 2012 #37
Religion is causes brain damage. JRLeft Aug 2012 #38

Robb

(39,665 posts)
8. No expert, so I looked it up.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:10 PM
Aug 2012

"After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+5%3A4&version=NIV

Clearly I skipped too much Sunday school; I had to look up "Seth" too.

 

needledriver

(836 posts)
10. Genesis 4:16, And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord,
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:15 PM
Aug 2012

and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the East of Eden. And Cain knew his wife!” Where the hell did she come from?
BRADY
Who?
DRUMMOND
Mrs. Cain. Cain’s wife. If, “In the beginning” there were only Adam and Eve, and Cain and Abel, where’d this extra woman spring from? Ever figure that out?
BRADY
(Cool)
No, sir. I will leave the agnostics to hunt for her.
(Laughter)
DRUMMOND
Never bothered you?
BRADY
Never bothered me.
DRUMMOND
Never tried to find out?
BRADY
No.
DRUMMOND
Figure somebody pulled off another creation, over in the next county?
BRADY
The Bible satisfies me, it is enough

From:
INHERIT THE WIND, by Jerome Lawrence and Robert E. Lee

NashvilleLefty

(811 posts)
11. Actually, if I remember correctly,
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:17 PM
Aug 2012

Adam and Eve had a bunch of children, although only 2 of them were worth writing about and that only because one killed the other. Those unnamed children then mated with people from the Land of Nod. It never mentions where the people of Nod came from, however.

I have another question - in Genesis 1 it says that God created animals and then created man. In Genesis 2, it says that God created Man and then created animals.

There are many metaphors in The Bible which make sense if you read them as a metaphor.

As a literal reading, there are simply too many contradictions. And I am not talking about a "couple of" contradictions, I'm talking about many, many MAJOR contradictions.

johnnypneumatic

(599 posts)
13. after King Solomon, Israel split into two kingdoms
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:47 PM
Aug 2012

the north and the south... and in each kingdom a writer wrote a their own version of the bible stories, each favoring their own kingdom. There were many similarities in the basic stories, but also many differences. Some later writer/editor, rather than choose one version or the other as the true story, put the two versions together, that's why there are 2 versions of every story in the old testament

NashvilleLefty

(811 posts)
14. AND there was an effort to reconcile the two
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:59 PM
Aug 2012

which meant there were actually 3 authors.

Regardless, the Genesis story can only be taken seriously as a metaphor. As a literal interpretation, it contradicts itself and fails miserably.

bhikkhu

(10,720 posts)
18. metaphor:
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 11:00 PM
Aug 2012

"Noun:

A figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable.
A thing regarded as representative or symbolic of something else, esp. something abstract."

I still don't get it. It sounds more like just making crap up than actual metaphor.

Yavin4

(35,445 posts)
20. So, The Bible Is Lot Like The TV Show, "Lost"
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 11:08 PM
Aug 2012

Shit just appears out of no where with little or no explanation.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
12. There are 2 creation stories in the OT.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:29 PM
Aug 2012

One story makes it seem like A&E are all the people there are.

The other - not so much.

johnnypneumatic

(599 posts)
15. Cain?
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:00 PM
Aug 2012

Cain murdered his brother, then must have boinked his mother, making Cain the first motherfucker (in fact, he invented it). If Eve then had a daughter by Cain, he probably raped his daughter/sister, to have a son or daughter... wait would they also be a grandson or granddaugter? confusing...
In various combinations of his inbred progeny enough people came into existence to eventually divide into different cities and countries and then invent war.

I think Cain also was the founder of the republican party.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
17. You're trying to apply logic when noone should be
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 10:41 PM
Aug 2012

Of course, that combined with the assertion that the bible should be taken literally is a recipe for Harry Mudd.

Rhiannon12866

(205,809 posts)
21. I've always wondered about that.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 11:11 PM
Aug 2012

And if those who take the Bible literally can explain it. It would be a good question for a Republican debate.

 

Jack Sprat

(2,500 posts)
22. What was happening before God created anything?
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 11:11 PM
Aug 2012

How many millenia did God contemplate by Himself that something was worth creating or needed?

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
23. While I get your point and.....
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 11:21 PM
Aug 2012

...largely agree where you're going with it. However, they actually mention three sons in the bible. Cain, Abel and Seth.

- What's more miraculous about Seth is that his Dad was 130 when he knocked Eve up!


DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
24. What will really cook your noodle
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 11:24 PM
Aug 2012

God destroys it all with a flood, and all the animals were created from two samples of each species (*came on the boat with Noah and family) But this time God wanted a larger gene pool, and the eight people who came along for the ride (or clean up shit) Noah & and wife. and his three sons and their wives.

What was decontaminating the gene pool? Nephilim. From mount Olympus...They rebelled against their father, Uranus. Oh wait...

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
35. For God to have destroyed all of Creation in a flood, it would have to have been 9,000 meters deep.
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 02:28 AM
Aug 2012

That means there would have to have been approximately 30 times more water on this planet than there was previous to the flood, and that number is also thought to be nine times more water that is to be found in our entire solar system.

Where did that water come from, and why isn't it still here?

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
25. Genesis implies that Nod was populated.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 11:28 PM
Aug 2012

Just because Adam and Eve were the only humans in the garden of Eden doesn't not mean that they were the only humans.

Not that I believe any of this crap, just saying.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
31. Sigmund Freud & Ludwig Feuerbach.
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 12:00 AM
Aug 2012

I read this in my intro religion course, Nature and Function of Religion.

Freud said that man created god to serve his psychological needs for a protector daddy.

Feuerbach said that god is the outward projection of man's inner nature.

However, neither of them said that god created man.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
36. I can
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 02:39 AM
Aug 2012

Man created God. Gods actually, as there have literally been thousands of them imagined. And Man will continue to create Gods for as long as there are mysteries he cannot understand and lacks the courage to attempt to explain. Assigning anything to "God" is the ultimate copout. It's not only an admission of ignorance, it's a declaration that one intends to remain so.

We can be better than this if we would only stop being afraid and TRY.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
29. Adam and Eve had three sons, Cain, Abel, and Seth.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 11:58 PM
Aug 2012

After Seth, Adam lived 800 years, or so says the bible.

In Genesis, the Sons of God married the daughters of men. Who were these? The bible is quiet. Some have said, the boys Schtupped their sisters.

But since all of Genesis is a myth, it hardly matters.

According to Greeks, Zeus schtupped women by turning into a goose, by becoming a rain of gold, and occasionally the old fashioned way.

Myth is myth. Amazing things happen, like in Harry Potter.

Tyrs WolfDaemon

(2,289 posts)
34. The real real reason for Cain killing Abel
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 02:14 AM
Aug 2012

Abel caught him with the sheep trying to create a new kind of human (My guess is that Abel was just pissy that his favorite ewe was cheating on him)




It has to be true, I read it in a book once














at least I think I did.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
37. Pure awesome
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 05:12 PM
Aug 2012

And Abel gave up his "wife" to god in the first sacrifice.

Cain: "...How the hell do I get my plants to do that so I can offer a similar sacrifice? My stupid Bro is a cheater!"

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