I thought when I first saw it, that it would be right wing propaganda. It is far from it, and very well done. It goes into great detail about what very likely could happen and how it would go down.

… I agree with the OP's assessment. Its all too easy to see the brown shirts of the MAGA forces forming barriers to polling places, intimidating voters in other ways. If the Courts , that are being packed by our chump in chief remember , do nothing to stop these ass clowns they will only gain confidence and numbers.

Remember that the Third Reich came to power with about 38% of the popular vote. Does that number look familiar to anyone?

I've heard people say between that and 30%. But those numbers don't take into account that there were more conservative groups supporting Hitler than just his Nazi Party. Pretty much all the German conservatives were favorable towards him--particularly the wealthy and the industrialists (does that sound familiar?). The liberals were in the minority, and they didn't really take Hitler seriously.

The German people were ready for him.

I think there is enough good people in this country that don't want one.

I think this country is headed toward another reckoning, like what happened with slavery, but hopefully a nonviolent reckoning.

I don't want one either, I'm upset because tRump and the repugs won't give us much of a choice.

It has been going on since the Surrender at Appomattox Court House. I believe that it has been a very, very long game of skirmishes that are physical, social and legal since Lee met with US Grant on that day.

Gerrymandered voting districts have been used by both parties. It became an art form under the Republicans. Our country uses private companies that provide proprietary software on easily hacked, badly maintained and, in some cases, totally unverifiable and not able to audit voting machines. The Mueller report clearly states that our voting systems were successfully attacked by the Russians who actively supported one candidate. To date, no forensic analysis of the voting machines has taken place.

Remote-access software and modems on election equipment 'is the worst decision for security short of leaving ballot boxes on a Moscow street corner.'

The nation's top voting machine maker has admitted in a letter to a federal lawmaker that the company installed remote-access software on election-management systems it sold over a period of six years, raising questions about the security of those systems and the integrity of elections that were conducted with them.https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mb4ezy/top-voting-machine-vendor-admits-it-installed-remote-access-software-on-systems-sold-to-states

Follow Jennifer Cohn @jennycohn1. She is an attorney who writes about election security.

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voters was so acute that it drove turnout up, and if it isn't close, they can't steal it.

They're always murder-mouthing threats of civil war, but like any other gibbering coward, they need to think they won before they start the actual fight.

We are America, and America is better than that bloated syphilitic nazi pig stupid lazy crazy failure loser.

that we are in the midst of a "civil war" albeit a "cold" one...

I think the other side understands this. In fact, I think the other side has been engaged in a cold civil war at least ever since Obama's first term. Meanwhile, our side worries about bipartisanship.

How would we know the enemy? I am white and make sure folks know I'm not one of those crazy white haters.

Plesse listen, it's both terrifying and heartening.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-it-could-happen-here-30717896/?cmp=android_share&pr=false

Makes you wonder if Russia will be backing him with troops. So next will be a fake war followed by martial law. Then curfews, deportations, and death camps.

This is our future if we're not on the ball.

a couple of weeks ago. I have learned to listen to what he says others are doing, and I think you could be right! There is an old saying "When you point a finger at someone, there are three fingers pointing back at you." (Louis Nizer)

needs to be legitimate, tied down, fortified, made immune to interference and distortion.
Accurate beyond any doubt.

That's the place to start.

Paper ballots!

to make sure this isn't going to happen.

And that happens at your state house. Repeat, your STATE is the one who is buying election equipment, setting up and maintaining the system, and (if you're lucky) monitoring the vote. Crying to Nancy Pelosi isn't accomplishing anything. And another good illustration of why flipping your state house might be just as important as the WH and the Senate.

GOTFV!!!

purging, gerrymandering and the likes of Diebold are sufficient along with the complicit media.

That with the demographics for an area (which we know Trumps campaign was able to turn over to Russia in key areas) with everyone identified as registered and voting, or NOT REGISTERED but living there that what could be happening with the poll books access is that it would be possible to ADD VOTERS from the resident population that does not normally vote. Then on election day go into the poll books, mark them as voting. THEN go into the vote counting and add those votes to Orange Marmalade.

They could do that while all the time feeding the meme that "well it looks like somebody got access to the pollbooks", but that was all.

It would be a strategy that could also be fed from their divisive tactic to de-moralize people into not voting. That would be the supply stream for the process above.

This civil war and how are they going to fight it?

Pure fantasy.

It was about the Southern States voting to create their own government and seceding from the existing government because slavery was central to it’s economy. Had it succeeded there would be two countries instead if one, and slavery would have had to end in some other way. That it would end at some point I’m sure would have happened. No people can be enslaved forever.

ala Hitler's Germany.

If "spot fires" of a violent civil war occur, there will be immediate martial law and the military will rapidly stomp out uprisings at the will of the ultra-wealthy and corporations. We are pretty far along that track now without civil war.

Our right to vote is already weak sauce. The crimes and corruption of the Reagan era were not adequately addressed. The 2000 election was essentially a coup followed by lying and propagandizing the USA into an aggressive war in Iraq. The Iraq War and War on Terror in general have poor results for the American people (and world not to mention the citizens of the assaulted countries) but some interests have greatly benefit ted and now "own" our political system. Yet the corporate media still urges on more war.

About the time the USA comes face to face violent war with Russia and/or China, our Democratic Republic will have come to an end (and we are not nearly as in such a strong position as the past). Not much is making sense anymore and this is deliberate action by interests that want to change the world to their evil sensibilities. . Contrary to many at DU, I think Trump is a hapless dupe in the eyes of Putin but Trump is not under direct control of Putin; Trump is a dangerous self-centered greedy control freak that is enabled by a GOP gone far off the rails of sanity, enacting policy that harms rather than enhances our place in the World and decreases freedom and welfare of our citizens. What I thought were values to be perfected in a never ending curse of our history. I tend to think that all the current red baiting is a dangerous mistake as the World powers are still in an ever more precarious position of mutually assured destruction.

Russia ever could have dreamed to. Now he is bitter he got hung out to dry.

2020 is going to be entertaining for sure, both sides will claim fraud as always and we will move on. The Left will scream voting machines were hacked, the right will swear dead people are voting, it happens every cycle.

I think if Russia really wanted to cause some chaos they should back the Democratic candidate, talk about a media meltdown.

If it comes to that, There will either be a military coup, where the military sides with the insurgents trying to overthrow the government/secede, or there will be a series of small scale skirmishes that will be crushed by a loyal military, perhaps followed by an extended period of domestic terrorism.

But, a war with two opposing armies taking and losing ground, with one emerging as a victor? Never gonna happen.

We're getting nowhere fast with any Congressional oversight - or the lack thereof. I'm not blaming Congress - there's only so much that they can do with a criminally controlled Senate and Administration.
It's up to us. We MUST flood the streets in every significant city throughout the country with major demonstrations and sustained acts of civil disobedience. We MUST make the resistance a part of the daily routine for all Americans, whether they agree or not, the resistance must become an ever-present activity. That's where we find out if we're a majority or not.
The cultists will retaliate, that we can be sure of. That is the inflection point of a civil war.
Thing is, the republicans want this to happen. They control the police, the military, and the corporations.
The time is now: what are we as a nation? Is this country salvageable?
Without an internal government solution to this mess, I fear we are heading for a reckoning.