Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

CousinIT

(9,257 posts)
Sat May 4, 2019, 09:50 PM May 2019

CNN opinion: "Democrats are facing a huge problem"

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/04/opinions/democrats-are-about-to-get-hammered-by-gop-zelizer/index.html

. . .When they began their investigations, they still seemed to have assumed that the administration would play by some kind of rules. They hoped that the hearing stage of these investigations would help educate the public and Congress about what has happened and create a more solid basis for determining whether impeachment proceedings should or should not begin. But instead, Democrats are getting nothing other than more obstruction, and the clock keeps ticking.

Fearing that the impeachment process will trigger a backlash akin to what Republicans faced in the late 1990s, Democrats are getting caught up in an investigative quagmire that is likely to result in cumbersome legal battles with the administration, uncooperative witnesses, meager information and ongoing news coverage about the clash between the branches rather than the actual substance of the evidence in the Mueller report.

At this rate, Democrats could realize their worst fears. They could wind up allowing these multiple investigations to keep dragging out without producing the kind of information that moves public opinion. Given that this is not an impeachment proceeding, Republicans will be able to find some political space to start claiming that Democrats are engaged in endless investigations that don't lead to an up or down vote.

At the same time, the media coverage of the battles over the investigation will overshadow discussions of policy issues favorable to the Democrats and Republicans will berate their opponents for only investigating rather than caring at all about good governance.

But the political risks are even worse than this. Senate Republicans are ready to begin two years of their own investigations. While Democrats are perpetually outraged, Republicans are perpetually partisan. As some senators such as Lindsay Graham warned during the Barr hearings, they will open up their own hearings into whether the Obama administration allowed for illegal "spying" into the 2016 Trump campaign.

They will ramp up discussions, which Barr seems to support, of "deep state" conspiracies and corrupt federal agents. And this is just the start. It is easy to imagine that White House officials are gearing up to launch other investigations as well.
22 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
CNN opinion: "Democrats are facing a huge problem" (Original Post) CousinIT May 2019 OP
No, CNN has a huge problem Sherman A1 May 2019 #1
I don't watch CNN, watoos May 2019 #12
Can't argue there, especially CNN's journalistic malfeasance when it comes to Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #17
Because guest problem the country is facing is the media. When trump LIES about doctors killing still_one May 2019 #2
Waiting for the companion piece about the big problem Republicans have - since it's the people on StarfishSaver May 2019 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2019 #7
Thats not what the article said. watoos May 2019 #13
Oh crap. My bad. Chin music May 2019 #18
Yes, the huge problem abqtommy May 2019 #4
Horserace...365/24/7 or they aren't following the corporate model. Chin music May 2019 #6
Precisely Sherman A1 May 2019 #20
Always the Dems that "have a huge problem". Chin music May 2019 #5
Yadda, Yadda, Yadda Me. May 2019 #8
I think the opinionist is wrong and trying to make news delisen May 2019 #9
Impeachment proceedings must begin immediately manor321 May 2019 #10
Exactly, that's the point the article is making, watoos May 2019 #14
Exactly....if they cant get something started by early summer... VarryOn May 2019 #19
CNN is always looking for a horse race revmclaren May 2019 #11
Who the hell is Julian Zelizer? mcar May 2019 #15
Because its so much worse that the Obama Justice Department was spying on the Trump Campaign Strelnikov_ May 2019 #16
There may be people who genuinely believe DeminPennswoods May 2019 #21
This is Trump 101 D_Master81 May 2019 #22

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. No, CNN has a huge problem
Sat May 4, 2019, 09:54 PM
May 2019

It is Infotainment and long ago gave up on journalism.

Turn it off and your world improves.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
12. I don't watch CNN,
Sat May 4, 2019, 10:15 PM
May 2019

but the person who wrote the OP is spot on. Democrats are making a mistake by not holding impeachment hearings.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
17. Can't argue there, especially CNN's journalistic malfeasance when it comes to Bernie.
Sat May 4, 2019, 11:17 PM
May 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

still_one

(92,403 posts)
2. Because guest problem the country is facing is the media. When trump LIES about doctors killing
Sat May 4, 2019, 09:57 PM
May 2019

babies, or his hundreds of other LIES, that has to be called on in bold letters

It isn’t good enough to be discussed on a talk show, it needs to be a headline as part of the news

Lies like this cannot be brushed aside

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
3. Waiting for the companion piece about the big problem Republicans have - since it's the people on
Sat May 4, 2019, 09:57 PM
May 2019

their side who are facing impeachment and jail.

Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #3)

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
4. Yes, the huge problem
Sat May 4, 2019, 10:03 PM
May 2019

Democrats are facing is named tRump, Barr, McConnel and the rest of the reTHUGlican horde.
Might as well add CNN and the rest of the MSM too!

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
5. Always the Dems that "have a huge problem".
Sat May 4, 2019, 10:06 PM
May 2019

They may be surprised come Monday. Congress isn't a trump inc employee. Accountability isnt just for street folk. Congress is the People's Branch and is spelled out in ARTICLE ONE, bc we take precedent of the three branches of govt. If they want to change the constitution, do it the right way.
We aren't just going to give it to them. No more passes.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
8. Yadda, Yadda, Yadda
Sat May 4, 2019, 10:10 PM
May 2019

The meme of the week. The traitor and Cons are apparently not facing a problem at all, just the, you know, Dems who can't be credited to walk and chew gum at the same time.

delisen

(6,044 posts)
9. I think the opinionist is wrong and trying to make news
Sat May 4, 2019, 10:12 PM
May 2019

The Democrats need to be serious, do no grandstanding, be prepared in questioning anyone who appears, constantly and publicly remind the Republicans to do the same. Keep reinforcing their duty as a co equal branch of government with a responsibility to provide oversight.

Meanwhile they and we need to start discussing the new warfare and the fact that we need to get up to speed very fast in combating the attacks from Russia and any other countries poised to join in .

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
14. Exactly, that's the point the article is making,
Sat May 4, 2019, 10:24 PM
May 2019

Democrats once again have gone halfway in their investigations. Republicans are going to attack the Democratic hearings (where no one is showing up) as witch hunts against trump that are only meant to attack Trump. With impeachment hearings Republicans can't call the hearings frivolous attacks on Trump because at the end there will be a vote to impeach, or not.

Meanwhile Republicans are carrying out their own investigations into the investigators. The corporate controlled M$M will certainly give more coverage to the Republican hearings since the Democratic hearings are not impeachment hearings.

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
19. Exactly....if they cant get something started by early summer...
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:20 AM
May 2019

We run the risk of all this shit consuming us thru the rest of the year and our 20-odd candidates getting no attention.

With our without impeachment, I think it will be a long summer. Serenity now!

revmclaren

(2,529 posts)
11. CNN is always looking for a horse race
Sat May 4, 2019, 10:14 PM
May 2019

and any real or perceived dirty laundry....






ONLY!!! 2019 and beyond.




Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
16. Because its so much worse that the Obama Justice Department was spying on the Trump Campaign
Sat May 4, 2019, 11:07 PM
May 2019

because they might be Russian assets . . . which they are.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
21. There may be people who genuinely believe
Sun May 5, 2019, 06:56 AM
May 2019

impeachment is the right thing to do right now, but CNN and MSNBC are not among them. The cable channels are pushing this idea for little other reason than they see it as ratings gold, especially if it would happen during the summer when Americans are out and forget about TV.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
22. This is Trump 101
Sun May 5, 2019, 07:33 AM
May 2019

dodge, defy, drag out and wear people down in the courts. He's done this his whole life why stop now?

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»CNN opinion: "Democrats a...