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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts) Thu May 9, 2019, 10:41 AM May 2019

Speaker Pelosi is right, and given that, what are the next steps after her statement?

Kyle Griffin
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Nancy Pelosi says that she agrees with Nadler that the U.S. is in a 'constitutional crisis' because "the administration has decided that they are not going to honor their oath of office."

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Speaker Pelosi is right, and given that, what are the next steps after her statement? (Original Post) Miles Archer May 2019 OP

She also said impeachment is divisive and the American people need to be behind it manor321 May 2019 #1

"An inquiry is NOT impeachment!" TwilightZone May 2019 #2

An impeachment committee would carry more clout, watoos May 2019 #5

How would impeachment committee carry more clout LEGALLY? What will compel Red Don ... uponit7771 May 2019 #6

Continue to build the Court case and... kentuck May 2019 #3

that's what i heard her say. mopinko May 2019 #4

Yup - the House gets to drive the narrative now, and must do so to form public opinion. lagomorph777 May 2019 #7

manor321

(3,344 posts)

1. She also said impeachment is divisive and the American people need to be behind it

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Thu May 9, 2019, 10:47 AM

May 2019

And she's not sure when the full House vote on Barr's contempt will be because they may want to have other contempt votes at the same time.

*sigh* Kicking the can down the road.

And she's refusing to open an impeachment inquiry NOW. There is no reason to not start an impeachment inquiry immediately. Not one. And such an inquiry makes it MORE LIKELY that judges will rule for the House.

There is no excuse for not starting an impeachment inquiry. An inquiry is NOT impeachment!

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)

2. "An inquiry is NOT impeachment!"

Reply to manor321 (Reply #1)

Thu May 9, 2019, 11:06 AM

May 2019

It's all part of the same process and a distinction without a difference.

watoos

(7,142 posts)

5. An impeachment committee would carry more clout,

Reply to TwilightZone (Reply #2)

Thu May 9, 2019, 12:26 PM

May 2019

than an ordinary committee. Trump's game plan isn't to win court cases, it's to delay the cases in the courts.
Democrats have more of an argument for the courts to expedite rulings under an impeachment hearing.

This is going to be settled in the courts, House hearings are toothless tigers since Subpoenas are being ignored and no documents are being turned over.

McGahn even stated that he won't testify until his situation is settled legally.
Mueller may be willing to testify, but can he just show up to a House hearing if Trump challenges him in court on executive privilege grounds? Remember, Trump doesn't want to win his legal challenges, he just wants to delay everything until after the election.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)

6. How would impeachment committee carry more clout LEGALLY? What will compel Red Don ...

Reply to watoos (Reply #5)

Thu May 9, 2019, 12:29 PM

May 2019

... and the Kremlin KKKlan to further follow the law?

I haven't any empirical answers to this question

kentuck

(111,103 posts)

3. Continue to build the Court case and...

Reply to Miles Archer (Original post)

Thu May 9, 2019, 11:08 AM

May 2019

...the case for impeachment.

mopinko

(70,127 posts)

4. that's what i heard her say.

Reply to kentuck (Reply #3)

Thu May 9, 2019, 11:17 AM

May 2019

maybe folks should watch that presser w the sound off.
the look on her face, the set of her jaw, says it all. i have seen that jaw a lot lately, and these idiots fuck w that at their very great peril.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)

7. Yup - the House gets to drive the narrative now, and must do so to form public opinion.

Reply to mopinko (Reply #4)

Thu May 9, 2019, 12:33 PM

May 2019

Then the hammer comes down, with the weight of hundreds of millions of angry Americans behind it.

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