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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf a fetus is a person at 6 weeks pregnant, is that when the child support starts?
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Delmette2.0
(4,174 posts)Thank you DesertRat!!
procon
(15,805 posts)Is a miscarriage enough for the state to prosecute?
Can the fetus/person be sentenced to jail if the host body is in prison?
Any death of these fetal/persons would go to the coroner, and the remains of those people have to be properly embalmed and disposed of...how is that destitute state going to pay for all this?
Instead of CSI teams will the state have WSI (Womb Scene Investigation)?
The Handmaids Tale should be required reading. Never was the separation of church and state needed more.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)Would that make God a serial abortionist?
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)so the wages of the father can be garnished at 6 weeks. Time to start the lawsuits. Either a 6 week embryo is a person, or it's not. You're right, you should be able to buy a life insurance policy and a legal insurance policy to pay for the legal help you will need if you miscarry.
MH1
(17,608 posts)insurance.
(yes, I know ... the ridiculousness, it burns ...)
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)hundreds of prisons for women, and pay the cost per year of an average of 60 years for each woman who has a abortion or miscarries.
Miscarriages are about 25% of pregnancies. Alabama has about 60,000 births a year, so estimate 20,000 miscarriages. Prison in Alabama is cheap, only about $15,000 a year. So the state would need an additional $300 million each year. The continuing costs would last for about 60 years, so this number will increase rapidly. I don't get how they think this would work.
marlakay
(11,514 posts)Since private prisons are their thing....ugh!
Jose Garcia
(2,607 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,482 posts)SunSeeker
(51,745 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)MuseRider
(34,135 posts)it is a baby the moment there is a sparkle in the daddy's eye.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)who have been told that the woman can no longer carry to term and they continue to have unprotected sex, is that negligent homicide when the woman miscarries?
treestar
(82,383 posts)Domestic relations code a provision providing for some support during pregnancy.
moondust
(20,016 posts)And the child support continues for at least 20 years until the child is old enough to get a job and no longer be a financial burden on the parent(s). I figured everybody knew that.
Ms. Toad
(34,117 posts)from the moment the heartbeat can be detected.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Apparently, the Georgia legislature thinks there IS a difference between an embryo or fetus and a born child. Fathers of unborn children are responsible only for "medical and pregnancy related expenses." Child support for born children is determined by a calculation based on the parents' income.
Ms. Toad
(34,117 posts)Children outside of the womb have expenses that are distinct from the mother's expenses (clothing, food, etc.). Child support is intended to be the father's share of those distinct expenses. The income based calculation is just a tool to apportion the share of those expenses,
Unborn children don't have distinct expenses - so the expense of caring for an unborn child is inherently limited to medical and pregnancy related expenses.
Largely my response was intended to address people who seem to treat as preposterous precisely what is included in the Georgia bill: child support and claiming the unborn child as a dependent on state taxes.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)The costs attributed to it in this and other bills are the costs the mother incurs as a result of being pregnant, not distinct costs incurred by the embryo/fetus. Another thing that distinguishes the unborn from the born.
IggleDuer
(964 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,117 posts)That is expressly included in the bill.
Ms. Toad
(34,117 posts)Expressly, as to child support. The others are relatively logical consequences of the first.
aikoaiko
(34,185 posts)Once the baby is born and paternity testing is safely conducted, I could see retroactively applying monthly child support and 50% of medical bills.
trev
(1,480 posts)it is my personal opinion that they will eventually ban child-support payments as well.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)trev
(1,480 posts)patphil
(6,230 posts)Abortion is a personal choice.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Vinca
(50,318 posts)AllyCat
(16,236 posts)Lars39
(26,117 posts)Hey, why not?!
progressoid
(50,000 posts)Duppers
(28,127 posts)slater71
(1,153 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Thats when a fetus is viable according to GOP science.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)20 years and 3 months?
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)Perfectly legal.
But insurers enjoy making money, so they don't.
Furthermore, yes. A state could pass a law requiring child support for a fetus. Because passing a law is usually umm legal unless it runs afoul of state or Federal constitutions. But they don't because politicians enjoy getting re-elected.
tymorial
(3,433 posts)Therefore I suspect they lose no sleep due to their utter hypocrisy on abortion and maltreatment of migrants.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)or the many various religious variations of their "true" story?
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)It's a mixture of pseudoscience and religion concocted to control women and their bodies.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)Lunch with my Repub cousin challenged my inner resources to respond with logic. OK, I don't want to admit that members of my family are expressing bigoted political views. I'm ready to let them go. "How long can you tread water?"