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He.Is. Simply.The. Pits (Original Post)
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2019
OP
Thanks. I was very curious why this didn't reconcile with his approval numbers. nt
Lucky Luciano
May 2019
#4
Step away from the crack pipe! W didn't have integrity! He did have more integrity than fuckface.
Lucky Luciano
May 2019
#12
Because Nixon largely paid tribute to democratic norms in his public speeches.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2019
#13
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)1. He has the biggest numbers!
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)2. From the OP link
Loudonville, NY For the sixth time since its inception in 1982, the Siena College Research Institutes (SCRI) Survey of U.S. Presidents finds that experts rank Franklin D. Roosevelt, Teddy Roosevelt, Abe Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson and George Washington as the United States top five chief executives. The 157 participating presidential scholars for the first time name Washington as number one with FDR second, Lincoln third, Teddy Roosevelt fourth and Jefferson fifth. Donald Trump enters the survey as the 42nd rated president, and he joins Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Warren Harding and Franklin Pierce in the bottom five. Dwight Eisenhower moved up to sixth, the highest ranking he has ever achieved, while Ronald Reagan was up five spots to 13th, and George W. Bush was up six places but remains in 33rd place. Barack Obama slipped two spots to 17th, Bill Clinton dropped to 15th from 13th, and Andrew Jackson fell five places to 19th.
The top five, Mount Rushmore plus FDR, is carved in granite with presidential historians who have ranked the presidents for Siena six times since 1982 always just after a new president has had one year in office. But five through ten has seen some jockeying for position over the last 37 years. Eisenhower wasnt even in the top ten in 82 or 90, but after one eighth place and two times at tenth, Ike has jumped to the sixth spot just out of the vaunted top five. And JFK has rejoined the top ten after two misses while Woodrow Wilson has dropped from eighth to 11th according to Don Levy, SCRIs director.
While other moderns are highly rated, including Truman at ninth this year and six straight times in the top ten and Kennedy, tenth this year and back in the top ten after narrowly missing in the last two surveys, no president that has served since Kennedy is considered one of our ten best, according to Doug Lonnstrom, SCRIs founding director and one of the surveys originators.
The serving president has entered the survey between 15th , Obama, and 23rd , G.W. Bush, as scholars begin to observe their accomplishments, assess their abilities and study their attributes. This year, Donald Trump enters the survey at 42nd, and he is only ranked outside of the bottom five in two of the twenty categories that scholars use to assess the presidents, luck and willingness to take risks, said Levy.
The top five, Mount Rushmore plus FDR, is carved in granite with presidential historians who have ranked the presidents for Siena six times since 1982 always just after a new president has had one year in office. But five through ten has seen some jockeying for position over the last 37 years. Eisenhower wasnt even in the top ten in 82 or 90, but after one eighth place and two times at tenth, Ike has jumped to the sixth spot just out of the vaunted top five. And JFK has rejoined the top ten after two misses while Woodrow Wilson has dropped from eighth to 11th according to Don Levy, SCRIs director.
While other moderns are highly rated, including Truman at ninth this year and six straight times in the top ten and Kennedy, tenth this year and back in the top ten after narrowly missing in the last two surveys, no president that has served since Kennedy is considered one of our ten best, according to Doug Lonnstrom, SCRIs founding director and one of the surveys originators.
The serving president has entered the survey between 15th , Obama, and 23rd , G.W. Bush, as scholars begin to observe their accomplishments, assess their abilities and study their attributes. This year, Donald Trump enters the survey at 42nd, and he is only ranked outside of the bottom five in two of the twenty categories that scholars use to assess the presidents, luck and willingness to take risks, said Levy.
The rankings make more sense when we realize that the survey is taken among the nation's top 157 presidential scholars. It's not a "political" poll, but rather an academic/historic survey.
Lucky Luciano
(11,258 posts)4. Thanks. I was very curious why this didn't reconcile with his approval numbers. nt
kag
(4,079 posts)5. Sometimes I wish he actually knew how to read...
So there might be a chance that he would see this. He, of course, never will.
ffr
(22,671 posts)6. A complete rejection of everything Fox News has been propagating since inception.
So America, who are you going to trust, history and what you know is true or Fox Noise?
Democrats are overachievers and republicans are the dunce cap kid in the corner. Don't vote for republicans, ever. EVER!
Man fall down. Funny!
Initech
(100,102 posts)8. Wow, Trump is wrong on everything!
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)10. The only one close to tRump was Bush 2.
Clinton and Obama score big.
Initech
(100,102 posts)11. Both products of Fox News (Chump and Bush 2).
Last edited Wed May 15, 2019, 04:24 PM - Edit history (1)
Maybe Fox News is the real problem here?
And while I'm no fan of Bush 2, unlike Chump, Bush 2 at least had *SOME* integrity didn't gut our institutions the way Chump is doing.
Lucky Luciano
(11,258 posts)12. Step away from the crack pipe! W didn't have integrity! He did have more integrity than fuckface.
Initech
(100,102 posts)14. Well, compared to Chump, anyone has integrity.
Bush 2 had *SOME*, but then again that's the keyword there.
Lucky Luciano
(11,258 posts)15. Tr&*p is number ONE at lowering the bar! Agreed! nt
Hassler
(3,390 posts)9. How is Chump better on our democracy than Tricky Dick?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)13. Because Nixon largely paid tribute to democratic norms in his public speeches.