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Demovictory9

(32,479 posts)
Fri May 17, 2019, 05:10 PM May 2019

Venezuela's Collapse Is the Worst Outside of War in Decades, Economists Say

Venezuela’s Collapse Is the Worst Outside of War in Decades, Economists Say
Butchers have stopped selling meat cuts in favor of offal, fat shavings and cow hooves, the only animal protein many of their customers can afford.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/17/world/americas/venezuela-economy.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

MARACAIBO, Venezuela — Zimbabwe’s collapse under Robert Mugabe. The fall of the Soviet Union. Cuba’s disastrous unraveling in the 1990s.

The crumbling of Venezuela’s economy has now outpaced them all.

Venezuela’s fall is the single largest economic collapse outside of war in at least 45 years, economists say.

“It’s really hard to think of a human tragedy of this scale outside civil war,” said Kenneth Rogoff, an economics professor at Harvard University and former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund. “This will be a touchstone of disastrous policies for decades to come.”

But Venezuela, at one point Latin America’s wealthiest country, has not been shattered by armed conflict. Instead, economists say, the poor governance, corruption and misguided policies of President Nicolás Maduro and his predecessor, Hugo Chávez, have fueled runaway inflation, shuttered businesses and brought the country to its knees. And in recent months, the Trump administration has imposed stiff sanctions to try to cripple it further.

As the country’s economy plummeted, armed gangs took control of entire towns, public services collapsed and the purchasing power of most Venezuelans has been reduced to a couple of kilograms of flour a month.

In markets, butchers hit by regular blackouts jostle to sell decomposing stock by sunset. Former laborers scavenge through garbage piles for leftovers and recyclable plastic. Dejected retailers make dozens of trips to the bank in hopes of depositing several pounds’ worth of bills made worthless by hyperinflation.

Here in Maracaibo, a city of two million on the border with Colombia, nearly all of the butchers in the main market have stopped selling meat cuts in favor of offal and leftovers like fat shavings and cow hooves, the only animal protein many of their customers can still afford.
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Venezuela's Collapse Is the Worst Outside of War in Decades, Economists Say (Original Post) Demovictory9 May 2019 OP
Sabotage from outside is another factor malaise May 2019 #1
Venezuela providing cheap, subsidized oil to nations better off is another factor Kaleva May 2019 #2
You forgot the cheap oil in the US malaise May 2019 #6
The US paid the going rate. nt EX500rider May 2019 #8
As stated, we paid the market rate. Cuba got it for free. Kaleva May 2019 #11
You'd probably say the same for Jamaica malaise May 2019 #12
The Venz. govt did all the "sabotage" EX500rider May 2019 #7
That can't be right... Blue_Tires May 2019 #3
They are all right, Thom Hartmann says that too, so they must all be right n/t progree May 2019 #5
Cow hooves? Scurrilous May 2019 #4
They overspent in an oil economy that went bust JCMach1 May 2019 #9
Wasn't just that, they made it much worse... EX500rider May 2019 #10

malaise

(269,211 posts)
1. Sabotage from outside is another factor
Fri May 17, 2019, 05:18 PM
May 2019

and it's been going on since Chavez wanted more of his oil revenue.
The IMF is no innocent party here.

Kaleva

(36,357 posts)
2. Venezuela providing cheap, subsidized oil to nations better off is another factor
Fri May 17, 2019, 05:25 PM
May 2019

"Venezuela slashes oil shipments to Cuba, Caribbean in half "

“The oil agreements have been a heavy burden for Venezuela. These deliveries reached 400,000 bpd at their peak in 2012, though Venezuela only received payment for 200,000 bpd,” said the Barclays report, citing figures from Petrologistics, the firm that follows tanker movements. “In the last decade, the agreements have cost Venezuela up to $50 billion,” added the report, titled Reducing Generosity.

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article16381898.html#storylink=cpy

malaise

(269,211 posts)
12. You'd probably say the same for Jamaica
Sat May 18, 2019, 11:24 AM
May 2019

Whatever - Venezuela is a sovereign country - you've fucked up enough of the planet

EX500rider

(10,874 posts)
7. The Venz. govt did all the "sabotage"
Fri May 17, 2019, 06:41 PM
May 2019

US bought the majority of their oil and was their biggest trading partner for imports AND exports so the US certainly did not "sabotage" their economy.
And Chavez got all the oil revenue but you can't charge what you like but what the current worldwide price is for your oil.
What did the IMF do exactly to Venz's economy?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
3. That can't be right...
Fri May 17, 2019, 06:16 PM
May 2019

because Code Pink and The Intercept and Democracy Now! and Noam Chomsky keep on telling me what a swell guy Maduro is, and how much everyone loves him?

JCMach1

(27,575 posts)
9. They overspent in an oil economy that went bust
Fri May 17, 2019, 08:44 PM
May 2019

there are a number of countries this will happen to as we move away from an oil economy...

Nigeria, KSA, Russia, Iraq, Iran, etc.

EX500rider

(10,874 posts)
10. Wasn't just that, they made it much worse...
Fri May 17, 2019, 09:03 PM
May 2019

Over printed money causing the massive inflation
Seized domestic and foreign companies driving off investment
Fired competent oil workers and put in lackeys, causing oil production to tank
Didn't invest in infrastructure so they have rolling and massive blackouts
Put in bizarre multi level currency controls, drying up dollars needed to buy imports
Seized productive farms and gave them out to loyalist non-farmers, domestic food production tanked

etc

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