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(9,257 posts)Link to tweet
No such thing as consensual rape
Ectopic pregnancies cannot be reimplanted
Rape zygotes are not expelled by the female body
Heart cells beat in petri dishes & are not a sign of intelligent life
& women are not your property
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)When I saw the video clip of Missouri Republican Barry Hovis, a former cop, saying almost every rape was "consensual rape" & the way he was saying it...I was filled with instant RAGE & I told my wife that disgusting POS needs to be raped!
...I KNOW! ...I was wrong! I should've never allowed these Troglodytes to effect me in that way!! HONESTLY, how else do you teach pig headed me who speak of women being raped like its something women just need to shut up about?!?!
...To see & hear him (& so many others across USA) not only look so comfortable & empowered to say such disgusting things in public but incorporate those Bronze Age pigheaded ideas into law is honestly the most nauseating yet infuriating series of events I've ever witnesses in America!
...These bastards are talking about my dead Mom, my wife, my nieces, Sister in Law & all my other female family & friends who I LOVE & RESPECT!
charliea
(260 posts)I was going to call them Neanderthals, but that casts aspersions on the departed. Although I'm non-religious I ascribe to the Jewish view that it's not a human until it draws breath, so pregnancy termination is at the will of the woman...
Not anyone else's!
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)
What a woman decides to do with her own body is her decision & the decisions her & her health providers make are as personal & private as any a man & his health providers make NO EXCEPTIONS!!
spooky3
(34,476 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)lapfog_1
(29,222 posts)people also are using IVF and other fertility treatments.. most of which are "not natural"...
so the IVF industry gets to destroy fertilized potential children almost at a whim but a woman cannot.
Beware of women being arrested for miscarriage... and btw, fact, nearly half of fertilized eggs fail to implant. That means that "god" is aborting more babies than humans could ever imagine.
But facts do not matter to these morons... and it is really all about controlling women.
CousinIT
(9,257 posts)...once they make them felons for daring to exercise agency over their own bodies, they can deny them the vote.
Since we're talking Republicans here, that's probably a 'feature' rather than a 'bug' in their little ruse of a program.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)Note: I don't think any of the laws actually criminalize women seeking abortions, but that is just a fig leaf. They are doing supply side prohibition which will be even more damaging and less effective than the War on Some Drugs.
volstork
(5,403 posts)Actually estimated to be more on the order of 70-75%. I have often used your analogy of "god" being the most prolific abortionist out there.
When you know all that can go wrong with cell division and mutations, it is easy to understand why fertilizations fail or why miscarriage happens: there are just too many opportunities for abnormalities to occur, and nature takes care of this the majority of the time by "disposing" of the abnormal embryo. It is now estimated that up to 80% of miscarriages are due to genetic or chromosomal abnormalities that would never allow an embryo to survive to term, much less out of the uterus.
Freddie
(9,273 posts)Than he should be forced to have a 5-lb kidney stone for 9 months, then pass it.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)Skittles
(153,193 posts)yes INDEED
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Takket
(21,625 posts)It really is all about putting women under the thumb of men.
mahina
(17,696 posts)God damn.
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Millions of people who consider abortion murder nevertheless approve aborting babies whose conception was nonconsensual (not that they are ever asked to consent of course) or between relatives. These exceptions were the result of a political deal, but now they've taken on the status of religious belief -- unquestioned.
Just variations on a potentially terrible hypocrisy capable of rationalizing murder of a lot more people than just fetuses in utero. I remember people outraged, claiming to be weeping, over a zoo animal being put down who were completely unmoved by vicious cruelty to billions of animals slaughtered for their dinner tables. Tears or forks and knives? Entirely dependent on the label. Worthy or vermin needing "cleansing"? Entirely dependent on the label.
Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)But theyre also trying to divvy the baby.
these days artificial insemination means eggs in storage. They can hardly demand that all those eggs be carried to term or the parents (only one or both?) will be charged with murder. (And eventually it will be murder.)
And trying to make modern insemination techniques for people who need them illegal would also be a huge problem.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)onlyadream
(2,167 posts)If he refuses, and a pregnancy results, he pays a hefty fine and/or some jail time.
Wounded Bear
(58,705 posts)the biggest tell is how the fundies react when you point it out to them. Tell them it's about controlling women's sex lives and they get all defensive and huffy and start spewing the usual crap about the sacred nature of life.
volstork
(5,403 posts)I'll bet they are all for it.
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)Nitram
(22,877 posts)it. Never mind.
Texin
(2,597 posts)A judge could rule against them based on the stated intent.
dlk
(11,576 posts)It goes along with their twisted belief that women are lesser beings. They are s sick bunch.
B Stieg
(2,410 posts)Who would have thunk it?!
Mersky
(4,986 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)No longer pretending to hide their hatred of women.
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)... and it would be proof that I didn't "consent" to being raped. Let's face it girls, we don't need penetration in order to enjoy it (wink, wink).
paulkienitz
(1,296 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)I swear were still fighting the goddamn Civil War. Its the same native sickness in the same regions, but its now spread out into the Midwest as well. Along with POC, womens freedom is seriously under attack
John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald (with others, I am certain), James Earl Ray and Sirhan B. Sirhan shifted the course of our history rightward with each killing, always rightward.
CrispyQ
(36,509 posts)paulkienitz
(1,296 posts)It was true forty years ago and it'll probably be true twenty years from now.
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)This type of thinking/power and control goes back generations and will continue for generations. Hopefully demographics will shift and younger people with more open minds will be the majority in the govt in all states eventually.
pansypoo53219
(20,995 posts)WOMAN pushing this shit. how many kids does she have?